How to - split the party without PCs being on line

So as the title says, I have a party of 5, two of them should stay on page 1 three of them should go on page 2 I have hard time finding way to split the party without asking them to get online and drag their portrets to the other page manually. And whereas this is a solution I wanted to surprise the players that suddenly some of them are not on the same "plain of existance" giving chance for genuine interaction. any way of doing it?

if you just want them on two separate maps, increase the area of the map, and put both maps on the same page, then use dynamic lighting to separate them. i am not aware of a way to have two active maps at the same time.

Hey Dalton, that's the setup I had initially, but I shortly realized that I will need them not to see initiative tracker, there will be some monsters on one plain that aren't on another and vice versa

I suggest setting up your 2 maps with monsters & tracker while your Player Ribbon is on the Landing Page. Then move your players to the appropriate map from the Landing Page while they are online during the session. 

Seems like it's the only option thank you for responses

And discord.  Put the other group into a private chat away from the others.  Turn Order will get confused between maps.  It's the way Roll20 works.  But otherwise track turn order outside of Roll20 and have at.  

It's kinda a pain.  Also you need to set not just NPC but also all player characters to GM only.  The player sees rolls.  The GM sees rolls.  But the other players don't see GM rolls.  Otherwise everyone online sees all rolls and has a pretty good idea of what is going on.  Honestly, it's more pain than worth.  I have all players in channel.  I have players drop to private for convos, and I let all players see rolls, if coming from private or otherwise.  I guess I'm lazy that way

you could start a second campaign, and run them simultaneously that way, but it will probably be just as big of a pain to do that way, too.

Victor B. said: It's kinda a pain.  Also you need to set not just NPC but also all player characters to GM only.  The player sees rolls.  The GM sees rolls.  But the other players don't see GM rolls.  Otherwise everyone online sees all rolls and has a pretty good idea of what is going on.  Honestly, it's more pain than worth.  I have all players in channel.  I have players drop to private for convos, and I let all players see rolls, if coming from private or otherwise.  I guess I'm lazy that way seems like really probleamtic, well in the end, in good old times when we all played in real life only, we had the same problem. One group in one room and second in another and DM running between them? ... ehh

Dalton said: you could start a second campaign, and run them simultaneously that way, but it will probably be just as big of a pain to do that way, too. hahah sure but at that point I think it's just better to give up and play in open hand :D