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Giving players a set of commonly-used tokens (journal?)

I'd like to give the players a set of commonly-used tokens, so they don't have to use the clumsy drawing tool every time they want to cast Web or Bonfire or  Spiritual Weapon or the like.  And to give the game a little more "flair" than using a quick scribble.   I have plenty of tokens to represent these things, but I don't quite get how to make them available to the players - I assume I would put them in a folder in the Journal and set their control to be "All Players".  But I'm not sure what to do beyond that.  (I've seen discussion of attaching them to a character sheet, but why?)  Can I just have a folder of tokens that they can drop onto the map and move around as needed? 
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Andrew R.
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I would create Journal entries and give them Default Tokens and Avatars and useful names, then set permissions to allow all players to control them. This is how I do summoned monsters and animal companions in my 13th Age campaigns. 
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Kraynic
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Sheet Author
The point of assigning them to character sheets as default tokens is so that they will be the correct size when dragged out on the map. Depending on the system you run, it can also be handy to have an "invisible" token with an aura set (so that the thing is visible when dragged out), and the aura can be adjusted for large effects.
Okay, I just thought there might be something more obvious than needing to create a character sheet.&nbsp; But create an "NPC" character sheet and leave it blank isn't that difficult.&nbsp;&nbsp; For anyone else looking for more, I just found a video on the topic from 2 years ago:&nbsp; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8i2mFvRgpo" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8i2mFvRgpo</a> &nbsp;
Thanks all.&nbsp;&nbsp; I did this, but for some reason when the players use these tokens, they come out at the wrong size.&nbsp; Specifically, all of them come out as 5'x5' tokens, regardless of the size I actually made them.&nbsp; Where did I go wrong? When I drop the tokens from the Journal, they come out with the size that I had created.&nbsp; I attached them to blank NPC character sheets.&nbsp; (I did put the spell description into the description of the token/journal.)
Jack said: Thanks all.&nbsp;&nbsp; I did this, but for some reason when the players use these tokens, they come out at the wrong size.&nbsp; Specifically, all of them come out as 5'x5' tokens, regardless of the size I actually made them.&nbsp; Where did I go wrong? When I drop the tokens from the Journal, they come out with the size that I had created.&nbsp; I attached them to blank NPC character sheets.&nbsp; (I did put the spell description into the description of the token/journal.) When you save the token as the default for a character sheet, it is saved exactly the way you have it &nbsp;and isn't updated if you make more changes to the token afterwards, unless you resave the token. So it's possible that the default token is saved to a different size than what you want when it's pulled out. The token size is also dependent on the size of the page that it is pulled out on.&nbsp; So if you have a page set to a scale of 5', and you pull out a token on a page that is set to a different size, then it will come out sized differently than you expect.
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keithcurtis
Forum Champion
Marketplace Creator
API Scripter
Jarren said: The token size is also dependent on the size of the page that it is pulled out on.&nbsp; So if you have a page set to a scale of 5', and you pull out a token on a page that is set to a different size, then it will come out sized differently than you expect. The key is to always set a default token on a page with a Cell Width of 1. The Grid Cell Distance can be 5 feet, 30 miles, whatever, but the Cell Width tells the default token what size it is to be on a standard page. If you later drag it out onto a page with a different Cell Width, it will scale appropriately. But if you set it on a page with a non-1 Cell Width, you will get unexpected results.
I'm not even sure I know how to do that.&nbsp; Ah, I see it under the settings for each page.&nbsp; And I left each page at the default, so each cell is indeed a unit of "1" with each unit representing 5 ft in my maps.&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, what I am seeing is that I have created tokens to represent spells.&nbsp; These range from 5x5 (1 cell) for "create bonfire" to 20x20 (2x2 cells) to a lightning bolt at 100' long (20x1 cell).&nbsp; They all work just fine for me.&nbsp; When a player drags one of these onto the map, they all come in at 5x5 (squished into one cell).&nbsp; This happened to a couple players in a live session Saturday, so maybe there is some global setting that affects players, but not the GM?&nbsp;&nbsp; Even stranger, if I switch to "view as player" the tokens drop onto the map at the correct size.&nbsp; This leads me to think there is a player setting buried somewhere.&nbsp; What do I look for?
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keithcurtis
Forum Champion
Marketplace Creator
API Scripter
This is a very common practice, so it is unlikely that a bug or player setting is responsible. It is likely a procedural error: there are possibly multiple characters and you are grabbing one while the player is grabbing another, or something along those lines. If you want to test the player experience, the best practice is to use a&nbsp; Dummy Account . View as player is good, but can still lead to issues when doing things like testing lighting setups. A Dummy Account is an exact player experience. Does the game have API access, or is an extension possibly at play?
That is a great tip.&nbsp; Didn't realize "view as player" and a Dummy Account would show different stuff.&nbsp; I guess that's obvious if I were a streamer - I have used variations on that technique in other scenarios. So, when I do this, the tokens come out exactly like I would expect (tokens are sized correctly).&nbsp; &nbsp;Now I need to figure out what the players are doing that is causing the tokens to come out as 1-cell objects.&nbsp;&nbsp; Any hints of what to look for?&nbsp; Browser incompatibiliites?&nbsp; Other oddities?