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Why is the Avatar no longer used as Default Token?

When I upload an image to the Avatar, its used as the default token as soon as the character is dragged and dropped on to the map. As soon as I change the token properties, it stops using the Avatar as the token and switches to the blank default token. Is this a glitch?
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Gauss
Forum Champion
Hi Kain01able,  Unfortunately that functionality was lost when the Devs updated how the token settings worked.  However, there is a workaround.  Open the Character to the Bio & Info tab.  Due to another issue, it won't work if there is text in the Bio & Info tab (not including the GM area, that text is fine).  If there is text in the Bio & Info tab, edit the character, highlight and cut all the text (except GM text). Then save. (You will put it back later.) Next, hover over the Avatar, you will see a box in the top left corner of the Avatar with 4 arrows. Drag that box to the table.  If necessary, edit the character again to put the text back into the Bio & Info tab.  Now you can set the Token to the image on the table. 
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The Aaron
Roll20 Production Team
API Scripter
You're using the Edit Token Properties in the Edit section of the Bio & Info tab, right?  When you create a blank character, it defaults to the little silhouette image.  Dragging it into the game will create that image. If you set an avatar, but no image, then dragging the character into the game will create a token with the avatar image instead of the default image. When you edit token settings, it will edit the default token.  If you have not created a token (you are relying on the avatar), the default token you are editing will default to the blank character default token with the silhouette image.  When you save your changes, you will be saving that default token with the silhouette image as the default token, so now that is the token that will get created. That should explain the behavior you're seeing.  I think it would be a great enhancement to make the default token you edit have the avatar image set if no token is set. To get the behavior you want current (same image for avatar and token), set the avatar and drag the token out to the map (second bullet above).  Now do one of the following: Click "Use Selected Token" in the Edit Character dialog.  This will set the default token to be the newly created token with the same image as the avatar.  You can now edit the token as you like. Double click the created token (or select it and hit the gear). Optionally adjust it as you want.  Click Update Default Token Hope that helps!
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keithcurtis
Forum Champion
Marketplace Creator
API Scripter
Just to further muddy the waters, you can get around the steps that Gauss mentions if you are willing/able to use the Stylus extension. The problems is that the text object sits on top of the avatar graphic object in the stacking order. You can force the avatar to the top of the stack with the following but of css code which would restore the behavior you are expecting. .characterviewer .avatar {     z-index: 2; } But I would really advise getting used to setting up a default token, The token that you create by dragging out the avatar technically represents the character sheet, but that's it. No default token bubble links, lighting or sight settings, and so forth. If you need more information about Stylus, the top post in any of these threads describes what it is and how to install a style: Show Off Your Style Show Off Your Style 2: The Stylening! Show off your Style 3: Third Time is the Charm!
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Andrew R.
Pro
Sheet Author
I really recommend getting into the workflow of setting the avatar and immediately setting up the default token. 
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Gauss
Forum Champion
Andrew, While a good suggestion, that doesn't address the issue. The issue is not creating the Avatar/token from scratch, it is when a character already has a token, and you remove it. Before the token update about a year and a half ago you could use the Avatar to create a token image in that scenario. After the update you instead got a placeholder token image (the blue man).  The flow was like this:  You got a character from a module, compendium resource, etc. You didn't like the token image it came with but you did like the avatar image it came with.  Before the update: you removed the token image, saved, dragged the character from the Journal tab to the table. The avatar image appeared on the table and you could then turn that into the character's token.  After the update: you remove the token image, save, drag the character from the Journal tab to the table. The "blue man" appears on the table instead of the avatar image. 
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Andrew R.
Pro
Sheet Author
Ah! I think I encountered that problem once when the system changed, and then I never removed a default token again. 
Thank you all for the responses. I was aware of how to make a token using the Avatar, but I was just really frustrated by the extra steps I now had to do. Its nice to know I wasn't crazy for thinking it had always defaulted to the Avatar beforehand.