In both these systems (as far as I know) certain changes just don't happen, like increasing stats just does not happen. As an example in the Pathfinder character sheet. I want to enter an 18 in Strength, but it remains at 10 despite the number being there. Or I want to increase the attack roll modifier on an NPC sheet for D&D. The value is added but the display on the character sheet doesn't change. This is extremely frustrating!
