Jumpgate, Setting Chat Tech to none no longer allows players and DMs to move the character/account portraits to new locations on the screen.

Repro: 1) Open a game with players using integrated voice and video. 2) Attempt to move character/account portraits around (note that they can be moved) 3) Switch over chat tech to "none" in Audio/Video chat. 4) Attempt to reposition portraits Result Portraits can no longer be moved. Expected Player and DM functionality to move/reposition portraits to help with gameplay and quality of life.

Agreed.  Default portrait location can be a problem in some games and the ability to reposition player portraits is a necessary function for gameplay.  Function appears to have been removed from both Jumpgate and Legacy.

The Audio/Video option "None" never had the ability to reposition player portraits. This is not a bug, repositioning player portraits is a feature of Integrated Voice and Video. 

Gauss said: The Audio/Video option "None" never had the ability to reposition player portraits. This is not a bug, repositioning player portraits is a feature of Integrated Voice and Video.  This is not true.  In my non-Jumpgate games, I can literally still move the portraits around and have them anchored in position with no issue. 

DM Raven said: Gauss said: The Audio/Video option "None" never had the ability to reposition player portraits. This is not a bug, repositioning player portraits is a feature of Integrated Voice and Video.  This is not true.  In my non-Jumpgate games, I can literally still move the portraits around and have them anchored in position with no issue.  That is not my experience. Assuming you are the GM, please go to the My Settings tab and then click on Audio & Video. Check which mode you are using.  In Legacy (non-Jumpgate) "None" does not give me the ability to move the portrait, and hasn't ever done so.  Edit: To clarify, this is the Chat Tech setting which only the GM has access to. Not the "Others can hear or see" or "I can hear or see" sections which also have a "None" in them.  Chat Tech has the following three options: "Integrated Voice & Video", "Legacy Roll20 WebRTC", and "None".  If you are still able to reproduce this could you supply a screenshot of your game, with the My Settings tab set to Voice & Video and also showing your Portrait? Thanks in advance. 

Gauss said: DM Raven said: Gauss said: The Audio/Video option "None" never had the ability to reposition player portraits. This is not a bug, repositioning player portraits is a feature of Integrated Voice and Video.  This is not true.  In my non-Jumpgate games, I can literally still move the portraits around and have them anchored in position with no issue.  That is not my experience. Assuming you are the GM, please go to the My Settings tab and then click on Audio & Video. Check which mode you are using.  In Legacy (non-Jumpgate) "None" does not give me the ability to move the portrait, and hasn't ever done so.  Edit: To clarify, this is the Chat Tech setting which only the GM has access to. Not the "Others can hear or see" or "I can hear or see" sections which also have a "None" in them.  Chat Tech has the following three options: "Integrated Voice & Video", "Legacy Roll20 WebRTC", and "None".  If you are still able to reproduce this could you supply a screenshot of your game, with the My Settings tab set to Voice & Video and also showing your Portrait? Thanks in advance.  So I realized that I was not using none, I was using the legacy roll20 voice option because the newer/integrated one does not display the entirety of the character names and I had my players include their passive perception, insight, and investigation scores along with their names in their roll20 name.  So I was using roll20 legacy voice setting which would display full names as well as give the ability to move the character display around but the "none" option does not.

DM Raven said: So I realized that I was not using none, I was using the legacy roll20 voice option because the newer/integrated one does not display the entirety of the character names and I had my players include their passive perception, insight, and investigation scores along with their names in their roll20 name.  So I was using roll20 legacy voice setting which would display full names as well as give the ability to move the character display around but the "none" option does not. Yup, that is correct behavior.  Integrated: can move the player image, does not have wrap-around text for names etc. (truncates names) Legacy: can move the player image, has wrap-around text for names etc. None: cannot move the player image, has wrap-around text for names etc.

I cannot replicate this behaviour. I have 2 Library games, 1 Classic & 1 Jumpgate, with Chat Tech set to None and Player/video avatar size set to Names only and I can change the Player video/avatar location to Top or Bottom and it works.

Andrew R. said: I cannot replicate this behaviour. I have 2 Library games, 1 Classic & 1 Jumpgate, with Chat Tech set to None and Player/video avatar size set to Names only and I can change the Player video/avatar location to Top or Bottom and it works. That's a different setting. Gauss and (I assume) DM Raven are talking about the ability to arbitrarily drag them to any point on the screen, not just the locked-in top or bottom.

Ah! I didn't even know that was possible.

keithcurtis said: Andrew R. said: I cannot replicate this behaviour. I have 2 Library games, 1 Classic & 1 Jumpgate, with Chat Tech set to None and Player/video avatar size set to Names only and I can change the Player video/avatar location to Top or Bottom and it works. That's a different setting. Gauss and (I assume) DM Raven are talking about the ability to arbitrarily drag them to any point on the screen, not just the locked-in top or bottom. Yes, I stream my games and I use an extra account as the "camera" for the stream.  I usually hide this player picture behind my camera, but can no longer do this in Jumpgate as it won't let me move the camera to the top-right of the screen where my camera usually is.

DM Raven said: Yes, I stream my games and I use an extra account as the "camera" for the stream.  I usually hide this player picture behind my camera, but can no longer do this in Jumpgate as it won't let me move the camera to the top-right of the screen where my camera usually is. If you could show with screen shots what you'd like to do, I might have some alternatives for you, I think you are using the word camera to mean two different things, but that's probably confusion on my part.