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Referee Content Exposed to Players in Purchased Traveller Content

I've got a weird problem:  I'm preparing to run my first Traveller game in Roll20, and since I'm very rusty on the whole system (it's been years since I ran a traveller game, and that was Classic rules) I'm planning to start with purchased games.  This is my first time doing that, as I normally create my own for my D&D.  I bought the core (Mongoose 2nd Ed) rules, and the Marches 1-5 set of adventures.   After getting things set up, I used a test account (separate Roll20 account on a different computer from the one I use as GM) to get a feel for the player view of things, and immediately hit a problem:  In the Compendium there's Bookindex handout (under the Rules topic), and in it are both the free starter adventure books and the Marches books, and both have summary pages that include a referee-focused overview of the games (the Marches set has an index that links to what looks like every handout for the set). Further, the free adventures book page has a table of contents with links to every page, including one marked Referee Info (although the others also contain data players shouldn't see, like summaries of available info if they make successful rolls). Thinking I might have done something wrong, I set up a test game (jumpgate system) and started over: 1. created game using the Traveller2e by Mongoose Publishing character sheet and selected the Traveller Starter Set Adventures (Stranded & Death Station) from the sidebar, clicked create. Loaded the game to see that it worked (splash page and journal had the content). 2.Exited and went into Game Settings, selected Compendium System to be "Traveller", ensured Share Compendium was set to "no". Under that, the list of selected compendiums (the ones highlighted green) includes the rules and the Marches 1-5 adventures, but does not include anything for the free games. Note that I'm NOT sharing the compendium with the players for this game. 3. I saved that, and moved to the other computer.   4. On the test computer I cleared the browser cache and used the Player account to launch the game. The Compendium contained both Rules and Bookindex, and the player can see all of the handouts for both the free game and marches 1-5 through those. So, did I overlook some setting?  Or was the Roll20 game created incorrectly so that bookindex was visible (note that Rules doesn't contain any actual Rules handouts, just Bookindex, probably since I'm not sharing my compendium.  Or is this some kind of Roll20 bug that discloses content that should have been restricted? I've got time to fix this, as my first game isn't for weeks, but right now I'd have to tell my players "don't read the compendium", and while we've all played together for years, and they probably wouldn't do it on purpose, they're all Roll20 veterans and used to using the compendium to look stuff up.  I don't see this working well as it stands.
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Gauss
Forum Champion
Hi Ken S.,  Can you PM me an invite to the game so I can come see what is going on via Player view? (Would be simpler than trying to recreate all of your setup.)
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Coryphon
Pro
Sheet Author
Compendium Curator
Hi there, I maintain the Traveller character sheet and produce all the compendiums on behalf of Mongoose. The book index page ( <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/traveller/BookIndex" rel="nofollow">https://roll20.net/compendium/traveller/BookIndex</a> ) is the ‘world facing’ intro page as it were, and recreates effectively the product descriptions as they appear on the Mongoose storefront… It is a public page so will always appear as a sole entry in the compendium section, this just seems to be the way Roll20 does things… The Starter Set is not a conpendium, it is a Module, effectively a Roll20 game with all the information in pages and handouts…This is why it does not appear in compendium sharing… Not sure if that helps but please do reach out if you need further assistance… Regards, ~ Coryphon ~
1759654728
Gauss
Forum Champion
The BookIndex page appears to be enabling access to the External Compendium, which based on my testing below is demonstrating a problem with permissions.&nbsp; My understanding is that unless a GM gives permission in some game the user should not have external compendium access to that product. No access at all granted should be no books (based on that game) Red listing any book should be no access to that book (based on that game) Replication: Create a Traveller game Enter campaign settings, set up the Traveller compendium as the compendium (if necessary) Redlist the books, do not share the compendium. Have a dummy account with no Traveller content join the game. Have dummy account go to Traveller external compendium. Perform a test on all the books. They shouldn't have access but they seem to. Have dummy account leave the game Refresh, test the books again They no longer have access in the External Compendium. Via the Book Index option in the game it appears the internal Compendium which shouldn't have access to a bunch of books is gaining the external access.&nbsp; Replication:&nbsp; While in the game with the above settings (Traveller compendium but no access granted): Dummy account goes to internal Compendium tab, pushes Rules (only option) then pushes BookIndex (only option). They now have access to the index similar (identical to?) the external compendium.
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Coryphon
Pro
Sheet Author
Compendium Curator
Thanks Gauss, and thank you Ken for spotting this! ~ C ~
Thanks, both of you, for your attention on this, per Gauss' suggestion, I'll also open a help request. I did go back and try replicating this in a clean game, and the free adventure content was still exposed.&nbsp; Coryphon, just to be clear, this isn't just the public "description", it includes, for example, the complete table of contents for Death Stranding (I didn't check the other adventure), inlcuding a page titled Referee Info that details info the player's certainly shouldn't know, and from my separate test user account, I could still open that page even when there was no compendium sharing, and in fact, I'd marked all of the compendium info "no" in addition to not enabling sharing.&nbsp; All I'd done was include "Traveller Starter Set Adventures (Stranded &amp; Death Station)" as a game addon when I created the game. Here's what I did to replicate: 1. clear cache on browser on both main and test computers. 2. On main computer as main roll20 user, Create a new test game, "Traveller 2e by Mongoose Publishing" sheet, include Starter Set adventures 3. check game settings,&nbsp; Compendium System Traveller 3.a confirmed Share compendium is set to no 3.b mark all traveller compendium materials "no" and save 4. Launch game (main user as referee) - Compendium shows "Rules", under Rules is Bookindex, bookindex allows opening referee content for the free games 5. Exit game, give invite URL to test user account 6. On test computer, using test user account, log in (this is a "user-only" separate roll20 account from my normal one, it has no access beyond what a player would). 7. Compendium shows Rules, Rules contains Bookindex, Bookindex links to material (including free games), Death Station table of contents links to pages including Referee Information, clicking it opens page containing non-player game content.
It's worse than just the adventure.&nbsp; The page for Marches 1-5, a paid adventure (which I own, but my player account does not) has a main page that looks like high-level overview, but a link on that page leads to what is clearly game content describing a spaceport in the game. I did not link that adventure to this game in any way, and as noted the compendium was not shared with it.
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Coryphon
Pro
Sheet Author
Compendium Curator
Hi Ken, Thanks for the comprehensive info. I have passed this on to my Roll20 contact who manages the Traveller compendiums also, ~ C ~