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What neutral Portrait Token Border do you prefer?

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Lorien Wright
Pro
Marketplace Creator
Amongst the various projects I'm working on, I'm considering creating Portrait Token versions of some of my Miniature Sets . But I want to provide a border to these tokens that would work well for the majority of GMs, and I'm not sure what color border GMs prefer. I can add some transparent .png files of different borders that GMs could download and overlay the base portrait tokens included in such a pack as I did with Adventurer Avatars , but I really want to make the base token as aesthetically acceptable on its own in order to minimize the frequency with which GMs would have to go through the hassle of altering the borders themselves. So that's the question: what default border color/design do folks think GMs would prefer the most? [EDIT] Followup question: Do GMs prefer having backgrounds to the portrait tokens, or should they be left transparent?
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Hoob
Marketplace Creator
I would say blue or brown are the ideal options for neutral tokens. Generally in my games I have the PCs as green, enemies as red and anyone else blue (allies, non-hostile NPCs, etc).
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I would probably go with grey or black.. In my campaigns I let PCs choose their own colours, and have everyone else as either grey or black (or a top down... actually upon reflection I have almost everyone non-PC as a top-down) but I think grey or black would be a safe choice. I also am aware of other groups that use blue to represent familiars and allies, where neutrals and enemies are different colours. I think pretty much whatever colour you choose someone's going to change them. Maybe release multiple sets (or include multiple different coloured tokens in the same set)?
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Gold
Forum Champion
Don't know if there is any way you can leverage this idea, but... If the tokens have a White border, then you can change the appearance of the color by changing the TINT setting on Tokens. Tint is an available feature, option on token settings in Roll20. Only problem is the tint changes the color of the whole token, not just the border. The tint shows up more brightly on white parts, and more dimly alters the colored parts.
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Gen Kitty
Forum Champion
Grey borders work really well as a neutral color. Every pog I make ends up with the 3rd down neutral grey ring border in TokenTool :>
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i just edit the bio portrait in gimp using these steps, takes about 1-2min tops. 1. start by using the circle select tool, show grid and snap to grid functions to grab an area large enough to represent the character on the original portrait. 2. cut the selection and past it to a new transparent layer, before deleting the original layer. 3. crop to selection, before scaling the image to 350x350px (5 roll20 grid squares, but any size Square can be used, bigger is better). 4. change the canvas size to 390x390px, and change X and Y offsets both to 20 (places the image in the center) but keeps a transperant backgorund for the excess 5. create a new transparent layer, and bucket fill with desired color, merging the tokens foreground layer down to the solid color layer. 6. with the circle select tool and snap to grid, grab the token + a 10-20px border, go to the select menu, Invert selection, press Delete key. 7. re-invert selection, crop to selection as needed. export as PNG. The example below was made using a 400x400 token i believe. to be honest, as long as you make the background transparent, other Gm's will be able to edit them as they desire.
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Lorien Wright
Pro
Marketplace Creator
Iskoaya said: to be honest, as long as you make the background transparent, other Gm's will be able to edit them as they desire. That's a good consideration I should probably ask about as well. Do GMs prefer marketplace sets of portrait tokens to include a background or be transparent?
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i ment the area of the square that is not in use by the token and its border. sorry for the confusion, that part should def be transperant. the example token i provided had a very... distracting background in the original image, and when i edited it out it became transparent as well (i do token work on transparent layers)