Dice rolls take up too much space on the log, alternative option requested.

I think that dice rolls are taking up way too much space on the chat log. A single die roll takes up three lines regardless of all factors. I think there should be a plaintext option for dice rolling where it's notated as " Player rolls 3d6: (4, 2, 5) = 11" or " Player rolls 3d6+2d8: ( 6 , 2, 2) (4, 6) = 20"on a single line. Of course this may prevent rearranging of the dice but that is an extremely niche feature. Also, being able to customize the text size of die rolls would be good as well. Such rolls should be given a specific background color to prevent spoofing. For instance, this pic I made on an etch-a-sketch. Top being my proposal, the bottom being what it is currently. I just feel the slightly larger numbers is just too "screamy" and taking up three lines for the most common non-chat action in a tabletop is just poor aesthetic design. The suggestion is much more economic on screen space by being nearly 100 pixels shorter in height.

It would be cool if a spoiler tag could be added so that the rolls would be hidden until clicked on. I know traipse has a tag called quiet and it removes all the dice and leaves just the total.

This is an amazing suggestion and it'd be great if there was an option for the dice rolls to take up less space.

I too would like the quieter rolls as shown.

We could do this with the API scripts.  We now have the ability to send a chat command and intercept the output and then output it in a different way.  But dice rolls are a little complex.  We get all the raw data, type of roll, dice results, etc., but there are so many types of rolls it would be a lot of work to look at the data passed and then create the output.  But I'll give it a try on some simple rolls and see how it comes out.  Basically the user would do something like this... !r /r 3d6+2d8 The script would send the roll command to roll20, look at the results and then output a "cleaned up" results to the chat window. But again there are so many possibilities of returned data that we would need to interpret and then output I think it might be for someone a little more experienced with javascript than me?  I should be able to write up a quick proof of concept script though.

I want this so much. I hate having so much screen eaten up by simple rolls, especially because it breaks the flow of in-character dialogue in the chat window so abruptly. Ideally I would want it something like Maptools does, which is parse anything in brackets as a die roll. So "[d20]" is output into chat as "20". The best part about it is that its highlighted differently so you know its a die roll, and you can hover your mouse over it to see the extended die roll (in this case it would be "d20 = 20").  But forget the bracket markup, I just want the last bit of functionality. If there was a setting that forced all die rolls to be output as a single number sitting on top of the die icon (like it currently does), and when hovered over would popup with a tooltip that had the extended die roll, I would be so very happy.

I'm all for customization as long as it isn't a forced change, I like the current system and the chat box really isn't used with our groups since we use all use voice communication for our conversations.  As an alternative suggestion maybe split the chat box into 2 (being able to move and resize them too) with one being solely for dice rolls and the other for player interaction?

Xuiryus said: I'm all for customization as long as it isn't a forced change, I like the current system and the chat box really isn't used with our groups since we use all use voice communication for our conversations.  As an alternative suggestion maybe split the chat box into 2 (being able to move and resize them too) with one being solely for dice rolls and the other for player interaction? Additional tabs have been suggested before. They have been suggested as whisper tabs, additional dice tab, ooc tab, and couple other things I think. They should be in the suggestion forums somewhere. You would have to look around for them. For us texted based gamers, the additional space  save would be very helpful but the suggestion of toggling it is good also.

I like this suggestion.

I think this is a great suggestion. Another (possibly simpler to add) option would be to change the font size of the dice numbers. Perhaps shrink the assorted numbers but keep the final result the same size?

Personally I would be happy if it was all on one line instead of taking up 3 lines I don't mind the excessive lines the dice actually take because I purposely rolled 10 of them but to have a line for who is rolling, the dice rolled, then the total is an actual waste of space. I personally would love the option to toggle of the dice image and just leave the numbers in a line. That would remove about half the footprint of the rolls.

They could also just add another pop window, sorta like the turn order and the like windows that could be turned on to only show dice rolls. Mind you, I know nothing of scripting and have no idea if what I said would be logical or not. :D

Maybe dice rolls could go to a different text window?

gravity d. said: Maybe dice rolls could go to a different text window? Metroknight said: Xuiryus said: I'm all for customization as long as it isn't a forced change, I like the current system and the chat box really isn't used with our groups since we use all use voice communication for our conversations.  As an alternative suggestion maybe split the chat box into 2 (being able to move and resize them too) with one being solely for dice rolls and the other for player interaction? Additional tabs have been suggested before. They have been suggested as whisper tabs, additional dice tab, ooc tab, and couple other things I think. They should be in the suggestion forums somewhere. You would have to look around for them. For us texted based gamers, the additional space  save would be very helpful but the suggestion of toggling it is good also. That would be nice also and has been suggested. Javascripting is being tested on a DEV server which is not for public use. It is called API and you will hear some mentors,mods, and dev mentioning it. Many things are being worked on or so I've heard.

+1

Being able to toggle between plaintext and the current (admittedly rather cool) Roll20 standard presentation of rolls would be very neat indeed. +1 to this idea.

Asaram, you can already toggle between plaintext and the dice view of rolls. The toggle (checkmark) is in your settings tab as 'Enable advanced dice'.  - Gauss

+1 also; but a quick idea:  What if we actually had three options? Show Dice; full size Show Dice; half-size  Hide Dice; show numbers only

Gauss said:  The toggle (checkmark) is in your settings tab as 'Enable advanced dice'.  - Gauss So that is what that setting does.

Gauss said: Asaram, you can already toggle between plaintext and the dice view of rolls. The toggle (checkmark) is in your settings tab as 'Enable advanced dice'.  Oh, yes, I know about that stuff, I was more hoping for something akin to the example at the top :) Something more compact.

Xuiryus said: As an alternative suggestion maybe split the chat box into 2 (being able to move and resize them too) with one being solely for dice rolls and the other for player interaction? This was the first method to come to my mind when I saw the thread title. I would support the idea of having the opportunity to have separate rolls box and chat box.

Modal chat window that we can move around would be great and have all dice rolls go into the sidebar window.

Having them be segregated would require a symbol on the main chat to show when they were rolled, along with a mouseover.

This gets my +1 after hearing a friend have the gripe. I don't often RP over text, but to people who do, it would be nice for dice rolls to be collapsable or something.