Bromorin Stonefist said: Animus said: Bromorin Stonefist said: I'd also be up for pathfinder, and if you have any questions about anything, feel free to send me a PM with your skype in it. Pathfinder will allow the most customization and creativity for your character Fair warning: this is not true. 5e has backgrounds. 4e has themes and backgrounds. Pathfinder has... traits and drawbacks. Any non-D&D game will allow for much more customization, especially if they're Point-Based Generation. That said.., xXNuckyXx said: what would i need to do to get started? <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com" rel="nofollow">www.d20pfsrd.com</a> That's all. Pathfinder and 3.5 are the two games with the lowest barrier to entry. Themes and backgrounds.. sure. Pathfinder has traits and drawbacks which are just a sliver of making a character what you want it to be. Hundreds (If not thousands) of feats that let you do what you want, largest selection of classes and archetypes... Much more than just traits and flaws. I'm really not going to get into this, but 3.5 and 4e both have those things. (Alternative Class Features. Y-shaped classes. Power Selection), 5e has it's own version of Archetypes, and more functional feats. And again, outside of D&D-based games, Pathfinder falls horrendously short of what you can do in say, Shadowrun, or Anima: BF. I was just pointing out that it's not a true statement, whilst still providing him with the information he wanted. If you wish to continue this, feel free to PM me. I'm not going to continue to clutter someone else's thread. xXNuckyXx said: ok so what should i do if i like more freedom with my character 5e is legitimately the best place for a new player to start. Not only is it amongst the top played games here on Roll20, but creation is simplified, and the basic rules are free from the WotC site. Creativity has very little to do with stats on a sheet, and much more to do with how you decide to play your character.