"Untitled" Pages Creating Themselves

Sorry if this has been posted already, but it's starting to become a major issue for me. Every time I log into a specific campaign that I'm not the primary GM of, there will usually be around 10 or more pages with no thumbnail and the name "Untitled." They'll often pop up between other pages and cause them to be rearranged. If I don't delete them they pile up. The campaign usually generates around 15-25 of these pages in every 24 hour period. I'm not exactly sure how to reproduce the bug, as it started happening for unknown reasons and continues. I am running the most recent version of Google Chrome (43.0.2357.124) on a Windows 8.1 rig. Edit: I see now that this was posted about an hour ago, but not yet resolved. I'll leave this up for now so the devs can get two different perspectives on the bug... but if you think this post should be taken down just ask.

Link to Duplicate Issue: <a href="https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/2093441/blank-ma" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/2093441/blank-ma</a>...

Let's go ahead and have you run the standard baseline debugging steps, just to get the ball rolling: I'm sorry you're having trouble with the site. Can you please follow Steps 1-3 of our Solving Technical Issues wiki page, taking special care to temporarily disable all browser add-ons and extensions, temporarily pause your anti-virus, and try switching browsers (for Chrome/Firefox specific issues) to see if one of those components is causing the problem. If all of that fails, please follow Step 4 , including providing all of the necessary information, so that we can further assist you.

Sorry, forgot to mention that I had already run through steps 1-3. The problem persisted. I already described the issue above so I'll jump right into the specs. Note: I am not the original creator of this campaign. The issue has been around since the campaign's creation. Web Browser - Google Chrome Browser Version - Version 43.0.2357.124 m Operating System - Windows 8.1 If Javascript is enabled - Yes Your anti-virus software - None List of any browser add-ons or extensions enabled - Adblock Plus Screenshot is above as well. Here's the log: app.js?1433268570:29 TOUCH SUPPORTED: false app.js?1433268570:29 USING WEBGL ACCELERATION... app.js?1433268570:29 WEBGL STARTUP SUCCESS app.js?1433268570:24 select app.js?1433268570:24 Switch mode to select app.js?1433268570:39 Initializing new dice engine with randomness... app.js?1433268570:39 Using random entropy app.js?1433268570:42 Compiling sheet... app.js?1433268570:42 Found rolltemplate: 5eDefault jquery.min.js:2 Mixed Content: The page at ' <a href="https://app.roll20.net/editor/" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/editor/</a> ' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure image ' <a href="http://imgsrv.roll20.net/?src=i.imgur.com/4725LWH.png" rel="nofollow">http://imgsrv.roll20.net/?src=i.imgur.com/4725LWH.png</a> '. This content should also be served over HTTPS. app.js?1433268570:42 Finding sheet rolls... app.js?1433268570:43 window resize app.js?1433268570:30 Final set zoom! app.js?1433268570:29 UPDATE GL SIZE! app.js?1433268570:30 Final set zoom! tutorial_tips.js:7 tuts loaded app.js?1433268570:35 Final page load. app.js?1433268570:35 Auth'ed. app.js?1433268570:35 Go post auth! app.js?1433268570:35 initial setup app.js?1433268570:35 Got players value... app.js?1433268570:35 joining game... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -Jfp44VSHEFdIe0E_Op_ is offline... 20app.js?1433268570:32 Full load page! app.js?1433268570:35 We have 31 pages app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrKUHXug-97WOs8kzdM is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrYETFia4KH8p8B-a5R is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrYLNczPI24pEcx83xY is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrYRagHEXH7q3JNSodj is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrYTYdCvfkhYZuEkri8 is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrYa7O-_YPb-CpcKY4o is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrYuP8FubMWrh8zMR6m is offline... app.js?1433268570:38 refershing page listings! app.js?1433268570:33 Player -Jrkwc_jODQBBKq4TZ5y is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -JrtXEgqSGjircCHuPhr is offline... app.js?1433268570:33 Player -Js2JqDlSrFqRQu-O1kN is offline... app.js?1433268570:35 Deferred finish joining... app.js?1433268570:29 Firebase Online app.js?1433268570:33 I think I should be first? app.js?1433268570:33 FIRST PLAYER: -JrKUHXug-97WOs8kzdM app.js?1433268570:41 Refresh Journal List! app.js?1433268570:41 Search took 35ms <a href="https://app.roll20.net/editor/updatefromrt/876558" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/editor/updatefromrt/876558</a> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 (Forbidden) app.js?1433268570:35 Scan for new plays! app.js?1433268570:32 NEED TO UPGRADE ZORDER! app.js?1433268570:33 Upgrading to new ZORDER app.js?1433268570:33 Array[0] app.js?1433268570:33 Array[0] app.js?1433268570:35 handle page changes app.js?1433268570:35 false app.js?1433268570:33 Reorder by ZORDER app.js?1433268570:32 NEED TO UPGRADE ZORDER! app.js?1433268570:33 Upgrading to new ZORDER app.js?1433268570:33 Array[0] app.js?1433268570:33 Array[0] app.js?1433268570:41 initiatlizing video chat app.js?1433268570:41 Connecting to WebRTC app.js?1433268570:31 Do refresh link cache! app.js?1433268570:35 init active page! app.js?1433268570:32 activate page! app.js?1433268570:33 FULLY ACTIVATE VIEWS FOR PAGE. app.js?1433268570:41 Refresh Journal List! app.js?1433268570:41 Search took 205ms 3app.js?1433268570:39 Descending into madness... 8app.js?1433268570:39 Descending into madness... app.js?1433268570:32 Graphics: 1 app.js?1433268570:32 Paths: 0 app.js?1433268570:32 Swapping <a href="https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/10088691/Z1DxJj7A23zjSem-FE20BQ/thumb.jpg?14339772245" rel="nofollow">https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/10088691/Z1DxJj7A23zjSem-FE20BQ/thumb.jpg?14339772245</a> to <a href="https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/10088691/Z1DxJj7A23zjSem-FE20BQ/max.jpg?14339772245" rel="nofollow">https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/10088691/Z1DxJj7A23zjSem-FE20BQ/max.jpg?14339772245</a> app.js?1433268570:38 refershing page listings! <a href="https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/sharelink/876558" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/sharelink/876558</a> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 (Forbidden) app.js:33 Reorder by ZORDER app.js:32 setting src app.js:36 Updating character sheet values app.js:33 Reorder by ZORDER 5app.js:36 Updating character sheet values app.js:28 Cols: 2 Rows: 2 app.js:28 Took 4ms to generate cache. 15app.js:36 Updating character sheet values app.js:41 Connected to session app.js:41 Someone just connected. app.js:41 It's us? app.js:36 Updating character sheet values app.js:43 window resize app.js:30 Final set zoom! app.js:29 UPDATE GL SIZE! app.js:30 Final set zoom! jquery.min.js:2 GET <a href="https://app.roll20.net/editor/updatefromrt/876558" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/editor/updatefromrt/876558</a> 403 (Forbidden)send @ jquery.min.js:2p.extend.ajax @ jquery.min.js:2p.(anonymous function) @ jquery.min.js:2Backbone.updateServer @ app.js?1433268570:3l @ base.js?1430163004:1

How long has the campaign been around, or how long do you think this problem has been going on?

It's been around since the 10th, so not very long. I've been a GM on it since its creation and the problem has always been present. It is a copy of another campaign that I haven't checked out yet, so it's possible the old campaign passed it on to the new one.

That's good information. I'll ask a few more questions that might clarify the issue: Do the pages only crop up between sessions, or do they also get created between sessions? You mentioned the order changing for existing pages, do you mean only that the pages are spread out (ABC -&gt; _A__B__C_) or is the order of pages also changed (ABC -&gt; _B__C__A_)? If you look at the properties of the untitled pages, are they all the same (like a default created page) or do they vary (like duplicated page settings from an existing page)? Is the campaign this one was cloned from still in active use? (And are pages being added to it? Does adding a page in it create one in this one?)

Do the pages only crop up between sessions, or do they also get created between sessions? I camped out in the session yesterday and they seemed to still pop up with me there. You mentioned the order changing for existing pages, do you mean only that the pages are spread out (ABC -&gt; _A__B__C_) or is the order of pages also changed (ABC -&gt; _B__C__A_)? The latter example is spot on. Not every page gets switched around but many do. If you look at the properties of the untitled pages, are they all the same (like a default created page) or do they vary (like duplicated page settings from an existing page)? The settings of the page is always 100% default. Is the campaign this one was cloned from still in active use? (And are pages being added to it? Does adding a page in it create one in this one?) The seed campaign is no longer in use and gets no updates or traffic. I'm not a GM on it so testing is a little tough.

Interesting. If you have the time to observe it again, it looks like clicking the "Create New Page" button results in the following lines in the console log: Full load page! app.js?1433268570:38 refershing page listings! thumb.png:1 GET <a href="https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/9262" rel="nofollow">https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.d20.io/images/9262</a>... 403 (Forbidden) app.js?1433268570:32 NEED TO UPGRADE ZORDER! app.js?1433268570:33 Upgrading to new ZORDER app.js?1433268570:33 [] app.js?1433268570:33 [] I wonder if you notice any console log messages cropping up when the pages are mysteriously created?

I'll camp out in the session today and check the log once in a while. Is it a possibility that this campaign is haunted by the vengeful spirit of a PC killed by DM hacks?

Best not to rule anything out! =D

@Chode Hensen, can you private message me a link to the campaign specifically too? I'll take a further look inside the campaign to see if I notice anything unusual that could be causing it.

PM sent. If you need to talk with me over Roll20 VoIP just let me know when I need to be in there. I haven't been able to find the source in the logs yet.

Chode, just to confirm this campaign was based on a clone of a different campaign using the transmogrifier? Update: I found a damaged page in your campaign that was likely the culprit. I've removed it and the duplicates. Let me know if that doesn't resolve your issue.

The campaign was duplicated using the copy/extend campaign feature. Thanks for the assistance.

I'm having a similar problem. I think it began when I was trying out an new API script called AreaMapper, I have disabled it, but the problem still remains.

Well... I now think that I do not have the same problem as the others. Whatever caused it, all the 100+ pages were created at the same time or in a short period of time. They no longer seem to be reproducing like tribbles.

After an hour or so of clicking... I have deleted all the pages... and maybe developed carpal tunnel. This will be my last post... unless something unexpected happens

OK... here's what's its doing now. If the campaign has no Untitled pages when I exit, it will create 2 Untitled pages when I return. So, If I delete 2, then 2 are created upon return. If I delete 1, then 1 is created. If I alter them, 2 new pages are created. So it insists on having 2 empty 25x25 Untitled pages in there.

Mac, Similar problems often have dissimilar causes. So we can best help you, can you please follow Steps 1-3 of our Solving Technical Issues wiki page, taking special care to temporarily disable all browser add-ons and extensions, temporarily pause your anti-virus, and try switching browsers (for Chrome/Firefox specific issues) to see if one of those components is causing the problem. If all of that fails, please follow Step 4 , in a new thread , including providing all of the requested information, so that we can further assist you.

Hi Mac, This issue seems to be popping up recently. Please follow up on GenKitty's instructions but can you also send me a link to join your game and then promote me to a GM once I join. This will give me the chance to take a look behind the scenes. It is usually caused by one of your pages in your campaign being broken in some way. We are still investigating the root of this issue.