[cWOD][In-Progress][Character Sheet Creation][Help Needed] Character Sheet within a character sheet.

Hello,              I've been using Roll20 for quite for some, but I have just recently started working on character sheets. I know very little about HTML/CSS, but I've persevered and have managed to re-tool the Werewolf the Apocalypse 20th Anniversary Character Sheet into an expanded Vampire the Masquerade 20th Anniversary Character Sheet (The one in the drop-down menu did not have everything I needed.) I also rebuilt the Character Sheet for the Fan Made RWBY game that I was using.              After making the RWBY Character Sheet I headed back to the Vampire Sheet to try to do something bold (well, bold for me anyway :P) I was going to make a sheet that held all the sheets for the 20th Anniversary game lines (Within reason and my best efforts of course.) I was halted at the first step however.  It was supposed to look something like this: --------- <div> < Vampire Button > <Werewolf Button> <Mage Button> <Wraith Button> <Changeling Button> </div> <Vampire Sheet> |[tab1][tab2][tab3][etc.] |information <end> <div> <Vampire Button> < Werewolf Button > <Mage Button> <Wraith Button> <Changeling Button> </div> <Werewolf Sheet> |[etc] |etc <end> --------- All I've managed to accomplish is a fun little array of icons that fade out when you click on them. I can share the code I'm working with, or the test campaign the code is in, I'm just not used to posting and wanted to get this out there before anything else. Also, I've been looking through the forums for information and I've tried looking into other character sheet code for help, but I'm starting to get lost sifting through the information. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Edit:  Public Test

You're going to want something  along these lines , to select between splats.

You are pretty much doing the very thing I've been hoping someone would do since I started on the website. I've tried suggesting something in the past, and someone certainly had a great V20 sheet up and working... but it missed so much. I'd personally have the extra boxes, names, powers, fuel etc ( like blood/rage/gnosis/paradox/chi/pathos/faith etc etc ) linked to a tick box at the top, clicking the box opening these portions to the sheet ( think like the RPG SAGA Edition for Starwars in regards to force powers ). So if V20 is default, clicking the W20 box would not only add in Rage/Gnosis/3 blank Renown lines +boxes(x2 row) but also add in the gifts box and extra talent/skill/knowledge that Vampire doesn't include ( off my head, Primal Urge / Engimas are what change ). Another thing I'd love to see, if you'd switch out to the above method would be a simple " Expand all " option, opening 6-9'th dots for all skills and additional open boxes at the top/bottom for each allowing for additional disciplines, backgrounds and abilities in general. Food for thought, I hope you finish this, WoD players will love you long time for it!

Brian said: You're going to want something  along these lines , to select between splats. Thank you! I was already trying this method, but I was able to fix it, haha. I thought it wasn't working. Gary "Lethan" H said: You are pretty much doing the very thing I've been hoping someone would do since I started on the website. I've tried suggesting something in the past, and someone certainly had a great V20 sheet up and working... but it missed so much. I'd personally have the extra boxes, names, powers, fuel etc ( like blood/rage/gnosis/paradox/chi/pathos/faith etc etc ) linked to a tick box at the top, clicking the box opening these portions to the sheet ( think like the RPG SAGA Edition for Starwars in regards to force powers ). So if V20 is default, clicking the W20 box would not only add in Rage/Gnosis/3 blank Renown lines +boxes(x2 row) but also add in the gifts box and extra talent/skill/knowledge that Vampire doesn't include ( off my head, Primal Urge / Engimas are what change ). Another thing I'd love to see, if you'd switch out to the above method would be a simple " Expand all " option, opening 6-9'th dots for all skills and additional open boxes at the top/bottom for each allowing for additional disciplines, backgrounds and abilities in general. Food for thought, I hope you finish this, WoD players will love you long time for it! Thanks for the support! No pressure, though, haha. Just messing around. I can be very passionate about the Classic World of Darkness and have supported the 20th Anniversary kickstarters. (I get the limited editions, but do not have funds for the "Premium" limited editions. (Sorry for the random tangent, haha.)) I could send you a link to a test game that has my Vampire character sheet in it, if you want? I would like to have feedback. Of course, it won't be a master piece and it's still being worked on, but I would like to let other people use it. I'm just picky about how it looks, haha.

Gary "Lethan" H said: Another thing I'd love to see, if you'd switch out to the above method would be a simple " Expand all " option, opening 6-9'th dots for all skills and additional open boxes at the top/bottom for each allowing for additional disciplines, backgrounds and abilities in general. One of the problems with adding 6-10 for the Storyteller System games is avoiding breaking the sheet's layout. Check out the Exalted 3e sheet for an alternative setup that doesn't take extra space for the extra dots.

Somebody asked for this in a custom game, and I was working with him  here .  We have since fallen out of contact, and I stopped working on it, but it might help.  Tell me if you want to code or would like some help.

Since I'm running late for something, I figured I'd just throw this test link out there:  Game Coal Powered Puppet said: Somebody asked for this in a custom game, and I was working with him  here .  We have since fallen out of contact, and I stopped working on it, but it might help.  Tell me if you want to code or would like some help. Quick question. Is this for the new World of Darkness (Chronicles of Darkness?)

...uh, now that I look at it, yes, mine was set up for the New World of Darkness.  So...yeah.  Not that helpful.

Coal Powered Puppet said: ...uh, now that I look at it, yes, mine was set up for the New World of Darkness.  So...yeah.  Not that helpful. I have borrowed some aspects from Chronicles of Darkness (like the Morbus bloodline,) but I have never played the game line. If I did I would totally take up the chance to help. Sorry about that, heh. EDIT: Sorry that I forgot to add a character sheet, earlier. I put one in now. I was running late and was rushed.

...wow, you used a lot of what I made.  I feel...special. First, a work in progress; got it.   Next, the skill names are on the had side of reading.  Not real bad, but perhaps changing the color to white, and making the text shadow 1px black? I like the improvements you have made, especially with the expanded advantages, and such.  I typically put a button to display the text of an ability in chat so the GM doesn't have to look it up, but its not at all necessary. Really love the background, but have a hard time seeing the "Vampire the Masquerade" banner.  Not sure its it is part of the background of something else. On the original subject: I would duplicate the css and html of the tabs, put it inside a page, and rename the class to "sheet-box" or something.  You can set up a sheet worker script to a set of radio buttons, so the player can pick which 'tab' is shown.  Its late, so I am pretty sure I didn't explain that right. I will give more input later.  Please keep in mind that I firmly believe in anyone's option to ignore my input, especially if your vision is different than mine.

Brian said: Gary "Lethan" H said: Another thing I'd love to see, if you'd switch out to the above method would be a simple " Expand all " option, opening 6-9'th dots for all skills and additional open boxes at the top/bottom for each allowing for additional disciplines, backgrounds and abilities in general. One of the problems with adding 6-10 for the Storyteller System games is avoiding breaking the sheet's layout. Check out the Exalted 3e sheet for an alternative setup that doesn't take extra space for the extra dots. The solution to that is simple. Expanded boxes are in a 2nd row for all skills. It keeps the lines small and doesn't cause the issue. The problem would then be to effectively have a button to click for *all* boxes, which then turns the normally low-macro WoD sheets into a clickfest.

Gary "Lethan" H said: Brian said: Gary "Lethan" H said: Another thing I'd love to see, if you'd switch out to the above method would be a simple " Expand all " option, opening 6-9'th dots for all skills and additional open boxes at the top/bottom for each allowing for additional disciplines, backgrounds and abilities in general. One of the problems with adding 6-10 for the Storyteller System games is avoiding breaking the sheet's layout. Check out the Exalted 3e sheet for an alternative setup that doesn't take extra space for the extra dots. The solution to that is simple. Expanded boxes are in a 2nd row for all skills. It keeps the lines small and doesn't cause the issue. The problem would then be to effectively have a button to click for *all* boxes, which then turns the normally low-macro WoD sheets into a clickfest. Such an expand button wouldn't be difficult, but the extra row of dots can still cause layout headaches.

Coal Powered Puppet said: ...wow, you used a lot of what I made.  I feel...special. First, a work in progress; got it.   Next, the skill names are on the had side of reading.  Not real bad, but perhaps changing the color to white, and making the text shadow 1px black? I like the improvements you have made, especially with the expanded advantages, and such.  I typically put a button to display the text of an ability in chat so the GM doesn't have to look it up, but its not at all necessary. Really love the background, but have a hard time seeing the "Vampire the Masquerade" banner.  Not sure its it is part of the background of something else. On the original subject: I would duplicate the css and html of the tabs, put it inside a page, and rename the class to "sheet-box" or something.  You can set up a sheet worker script to a set of radio buttons, so the player can pick which 'tab' is shown.  Its late, so I am pretty sure I didn't explain that right. I will give more input later.  Please keep in mind that I firmly believe in anyone's option to ignore my input, especially if your vision is different than mine. Yeah... haha. I relied heavily on the code from the other WoD character sheets. I jumped into HMTL/CSS blindfolded, copied the Werewolf the Apocalypse sheet code over and tried to work with it and around it. I'm currently testing new backgrounds and trying to get the readability higher, and the banner is separate; the background was originally artwork of a cemetery, so the banner wasn't clashing then. I have managed to get the separate game line pages working, but I now I am running into new problems, haha: Biggest one that I can't get my mind off of is I want the background of the page to change with each gameline change. I'm having a hard time with this one. When I get hung up on one problem I can't move forward until I solve it, haha.

Gary "Lethan" H said: - Another thing I'd love to see, if you'd switch out to the above method would be a simple " Expand all " option, opening 6-9'th dots for all skills and additional open boxes at the top/bottom for each allowing for additional disciplines, backgrounds and abilities in general. - Actually, if I am understanding you correctly, my page is a 9-dot page; except the Backgrounds section. There should be link to a test page in the original post now.

Only thing missing from the sheet, if you're sticking to just V20 for now, is a button to add for skills proper, I see you added an add discipline and path option ( very much required for Tremere or long running games in general ). 'Cause players have a fantastic habit of picking or lores or other side skills not listed on the default sheet ,)

Really, really love those icons you have for the expand/close checkboxes on the background tabs.  Those are sexy.

Gary "Lethan" H said: Only thing missing from the sheet, if you're sticking to just V20 for now, is a button to add for skills proper, I see you added an add discipline and path option ( very much required for Tremere or long running games in general ). 'Cause players have a fantastic habit of picking or lores or other side skills not listed on the default sheet ,) There was a tab for extended abilities, but I added that in as an afterthought. I couldn't put the repeating sections in as options for the dice pool so I was kind of meh about it. I replaced the sheet with an updated one, put the an Expanded Ability section under Advantages and put a transparent backdrop behind everything. Coal Powered Puppet said: Really, really love those icons you have for the expand/close checkboxes on the background tabs.  Those are sexy. Haha, thank you. I took the Vampire the Eternal Struggle card game symbol, edited it and used that. Glad you like them!