Vince said: I'm also curious if you experience the same problems using Chrome. Just for testing purposes... I happen to have chrome installed, and just tried giving it a spin on my campaign. It's not super easy to recreate the issue without actually playing, but as far as I can tell it seems to persist to a moderate degree. Obviously the issue isn't constant! But we're often experiencing that the sheet calculations slow down to an abysmal rate. I didn't manage to fully recreate the issue on Chrome, but I'll admit that it was probably mostly for a lack of trying. I simply don't use chrome when we actually play so it's unlikely that I'll get around to testing this. I'll try to keep it in mind during our next session. chris b. said: thanks I was just asking because i have an i5 with 8G ram and not seeing this, and was wondering if my system is more powerful. you don't need to collect more on that front. Certainly! I doubt that it is the case though. We have some fairly powerful systems all around in our group. Admittedly the laptop I sent you data from is not the most powerful device, but it is also the weakest link of the group and far from the player who experienced the most issues. I have to say, I almost doubt that it could be an issue on a personal front, because the issues were not perspective sensitive. Meaning, if Player A encountered the problem, the problem would be visible across the board. Any attempts to course-correct (say GM intervenes and attempts to correct stats on sheet too) were also subject to the problems. I almost have to say that it HAS to be a server issue. I'm also extremely willing to entertain the idea that it might have been something temporary? At least up until the post that Prof. Terminus wrote. Professor Terminus said: My PF games are having the same issue with the character sheet: slow updates, buffs short circuiting the internal math after they have been toggled off, some ability score mods not applying to relevant skills (no DEX mod being added to any DEX skills, for example), HP insanity. We have just been grumbling about it hoping it will resolve soon. But you're not alone on this one. We're pretty much experiencing the same issues as him, through out our campaign. Stats refuse to update their modifiers, HP does just NOT calculate at all, until SUDDENLY it does (so we've started writing manual HP equations instead), like MUCH later. The problems became seriously apparent when we started using the Buffs and Conditions system, which seemed brilliant to begin with, but turned out to be a detriment to our session. It was suddenly impossible to tell what buffs were added and which were not, because the sheet just didn't update. Vince said: Test out the latest beta version(warning: always a work in progress) of the sheet on our Pathfinder Beta Campaign: <a href="https://app.roll20.net/join/801350/kEQ72w" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/join/801350/kEQ72w</a> You can import a character as well to see how a given character will work with a newer version of the sheet and/or enable us the opportunity to isolate and fix any bugs that one character may have. I'll get around to exporting a few characters to your campaign ________________ Out of curiosity, Professor Terminus; Have you ever used any other sheets with the campaign that you're having issues with? I almost refuse to think that there is a connection, but at one point I did (very briefly) switch the campaign to the "Simple Pathfinder" sheet, and I have been wondering if maybe there are some abilities that were duplicated for that reason. having looked through the lists, it doesn't seem to be the case. I cannot find any abilities that aren't supposed to be there.