My friend and I haven't had the chance to experience 4e as players together, and we've recently become pretty disillusioned with pathfinder;so we're looking for a DM who can run it for us. We're both adults, we lean toward silly rather than serious with our characters, but we both know how to play roles well and love a good bit of crunchy combat. The both of us are usually available on weekday afternoons EST. Post here if you're interested in running a game with us as players.