"Player View" question

So, from the DM Options, I click on the "player view" option to see the game boards without being able to see the GM layer. I like to do this for my live stream so that the audience does not see what the GM sees. This works great until I get to a map that uses dynamic lighting. In this case, when "viewing as a player", the screen is completely black as there is no token that grants vision......Is there a solution for this? Reading earlier posts, I check my settings, and Fog of War is turned off on the maps in question. 

When you are logged in as a player, you count in all ways as a player. This means that in order to have any vision, you must have control of a token on the board that has vision. One way around this is to put yourself in the controlledby field of all PC's. This will give you the vision from all PC's tokens. Be aware that this will also make it so you also get any and all whispers being sent to those characters.

Not sure if this helps but Aaron made a script for this. <a href="https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4742980/script-u" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4742980/script-u</a>...

Yep, but I didn't mention it because scripts require a pro subscription

Scott C. said: Yep, but I didn't mention it because scripts require a pro subscription True. wasn't paying attention as usual.&nbsp;

Your non-pro option would be to create a second account that logs in to Roll20 and provides the player-view, by adding that second account to each of the characters.

For streaming as a GM who doesn't want to share their secrets... - Use two browser windows, connect to one a the GM, and in the other join as player. &nbsp;As long as you don't refresh/reload the GM browser you can have both open as the same account just fine - Make a small unobtrusive token and give control/sight to yourself, or give Full control of it to All Players. &nbsp;This will give you an "eye" as a player to control - Once the "player" setup and browser window are ready, most streaming apps don't even need you to keep the window maximized (as long as you use a window capture and not a monitor capture) - alternatively, go the social solution route and just ask your players to. It watch your stream mid-game :)

If you use a different browser for each connection (say, Chrome and Firefox), you don't have to worry about the refresh problem.

keithcurtis said: If you use a different browser for each connection (say, Chrome and Firefox), you don't have to worry about the refresh problem. Now that's really interesting! As it is now, the two sessions I recorded for my semi-private, unheard-of youtube channel have all been from my DM screen. Knowing that I can use Chrome for my DM and Firefox as my player-view recording window is going to be awesome as the recording should only see/record what the players are seeing. Thank you so much for sharing this!

Rat's Workshop said: keithcurtis said: If you use a different browser for each connection (say, Chrome and Firefox), you don't have to worry about the refresh problem. Now that's really interesting! As it is now, the two sessions I recorded for my semi-private, unheard-of youtube channel have all been from my DM screen. Knowing that I can use Chrome for my DM and Firefox as my player-view recording window is going to be awesome as the recording should only see/record what the players are seeing. Thank you so much for sharing this! Also using chrome in incognito mode for your player view and using chrome in normal mode should achieve the same result in case you didn't want to use two different browsers for some reason.&nbsp; Also, I would highly recommend using a separate account for your player view. This will allow you to use shift-click to drag your player/stream view to points of interest along with the players rather than having the stream view be locked in place.

You don't even need two different browsers. I believe you can do this sort of thing by launching Roll20 in two separate incognito or private windows.

Thanks, Scott and David. I'll look into that as well. The only reason I don't use a separate account is because I don't like the "blank" player portrait up with my player's Video Faces. Will going incognito eliminate that?

Ah, I can certainly see how that would be a problem for a stream. The incognito mode won't do that, but something I might suggest is to set that account to not broadcast or receive anything (under the settings tab in game). Then upload a cool logo or other interesting image as its profile pic. It should then just show the profile pic instead of a blank webcam feed.

Scott C. said: Ah, I can certainly see how that would be a problem for a stream. The incognito mode won't do that, but something I might suggest is to set that account to not broadcast or receive anything (under the settings tab in game). Then upload a cool logo or other interesting image as its profile pic. It should then just show the profile pic instead of a blank webcam feed. This is what I do. My Camera account's profile pic is a beholder. It seemed appropriate. Also, if you use Gmail &nbsp;for your log-in, here's a cool trick. Gmail lets you use a "+" after your email name without altering the behavior. Thus <a href="mailto:bob+camera@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">bob+camera@gmail.com</a> goes to <a href="mailto:bob@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">bob@gmail.com</a> seamlessly. It's one less email/log-in name you have to track, and you don't have to manage multiple notifications. Roll20 thinks they are different emails, but they are the same. It's a handy tracker too. If you sign up for service at innocentbusineesman.com as <a href="mailto:bob+innocentbusineesman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">bob+innocentbusineesman@gmail.com</a> , and then later get spam addressed to&nbsp; <a href="mailto:bob+innocentbusineesman@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">bob+innocentbusineesman@gmail.com</a> , then you know that that innocent businessman isn't so innocent.

Apologies if the above post causes spam to go to bob at gmail.&nbsp;

Scott C. said: Ah, I can certainly see how that would be a problem for a stream. The incognito mode won't do that, but something I might suggest is to set that account to not broadcast or receive anything (under the settings tab in game). Then upload a cool logo or other interesting image as its profile pic. It should then just show the profile pic instead of a blank webcam feed. Right. I like that idea. I'll do that. Maybe the campaign logo or something.

Scott C. said: Ah, I can certainly see how that would be a problem for a stream. The incognito mode won't do that, but something I might suggest is to set that account to not broadcast or receive anything (under the settings tab in game). Then upload a cool logo or other interesting image as its profile pic. It should then just show the profile pic instead of a blank webcam feed. Remember you can move the player video/avatar at the bottom and shove it out of the way.

Scott C. said: When you are logged in as a player, you count in all ways as a player. This means that in order to have any vision, you must have control of a token on the board that has vision. One way around this is to put yourself in the controlledby field of all PC's. This will give you the vision from all PC's tokens. Be aware that this will also make it so you also get any and all whispers being sent to those characters. Do I have to have a character sheet for this to work....?

No, but then you need to put yourself in the controlled by field of whichever tokens you want vision from.

Scott C. said: No, but then you need to put yourself in the controlled by field of whichever tokens you want vision from. can you do multiple tokens?

Sure, you can have control of unlimited tokens. And just to clarify, I wasn't sure with your previous question if you meant you (as the GM logged as player or secondary account) had to have a character in the game, this is a moot point as you would give control of all characters to the stream view player in addition to whichever player was playing that character, or if you were asking if it required an embedded character sheet, it doesn't.

awesome, thank you for the help!