hmmmm.....not having much luck there. Regards: Method 1 For sections that output a list to chat (such as offense, utility, traits, spells, etc) output the list to chat either through the settings page macro or the macro button on the core page. Then from the list, hit the button to output the macro Then hit “up arrow” key in the chat window to see the last output and you should see something like %{-Kp1Xd-_DkrJ2yI5igcI|repeating_offense_-konf19qt0knruztueih_roll} From this -konf19qt0knruztueih Is the unique id while the first id -Kp1Xd-_DkrJ2yI5igcI Is the CHARACTER unique ID which can be used in place of NAME . on pressing up I don't get: %{-Kp1Xd-_DkrJ2yI5igcI|repeating_offense_-konf19qt0knruztueih_roll} But: /w @{Bob|character_name} &{template:5e-shaped} {{character_name=@{Bob|character_name}}} @{Bob|show_character_name} {{title=^{OFFENSE}}} {{offense=1}} {{text_big=@{Bob|offense_macro_var}}} So no unique id or CHARACTER unique ID, and as a result no code the should look like: %{-KpAcmhct77IjozMe2FS|repeating_classfeature_-kpbzsmcxgwxdykaomof_roll}