Gold said: it was working in my game about 10 hours ago. I will check again shortly. Important Note: The players ribbon, has to be on the page that the GM is on, where you have the graphic on the table and selected it and hit Shift-Z. Won't work if you are on your Monster Page but the players are on a different map. I think that was it ! damn ribbon , ok i wont go on and on about why the ribbon is a loser . but i will thank the kind person and say " thank you "