so hard to find a group

I've been looking for a group for awhile now ...well 2 days but still and all the ones either have like 100 players for max or the game isn't for a month -_- hu back to searching

It's the GM to player ratio really. Also, I've had horrible experience with players dropping out for all sorts of reasons or none given at all. (both games I've GMd and played.) Keep with it and continue puting your name out there.

Being active on the forums gets you name recognition. Being helpful let's perspective GMs know that you are familiar with that subject. Being respectful will bring attention to you because most GMs would love to have someone that is active, knowledgeable, and respectful. Good luck and keep trying.

When I GM online, I look for a few things, as my inbox gets flooded. First off, I always put up a list of house rules and what isn't allowed, and I wait a few days to check for responses. If a potential player can't follow the house rules, they are rejected. If they complain about the house rules, they are rejected. Next I look at their grammar, and if I can't puzzle out what they are saying, they are rejected. Next I go through and ask the remainder to make characters and provide a brief background. I check the sheets to make sure they are legit, and give a brief once-over of their backgrounds to check for any red flags. Usually I'm still left with a bunch of applicants, so it comes down to "first come, first served". With all this in mind, my recommendation for getting a GM is to be quick to respond, don't question any house rules, be courteous, and have a short background that fits in the setting. When making your character, try not to be a munchkin.

As someone who went through a difficult time finding the right, or for that matter any, group, I sympathize with you, jayjay. There are some things you should do to help your case in this situation, though. Post what type of game you're looking to join, for one thing. Your post doesn't say what game or even genre of game you're interested in, so some potential connections have been missed already right there. You should also post any experience you've had and with which games - especially if there is you particularly enjoy or want to learn. Second, and this is something I have definitely suffered through with you on here in the past, 2 days seems to be a minute amount of time on roll20. It can seem like an eternity when you're jonesing for a game, but in the overall scheme of life and work, it's a very small sampling. There's a good chance that someone who runs a particularly good game, the type most of us are hoping to become a part of, is busy working on the details of it and doesn't check in on the regular forums as often as people looking for a group. Finding what you're looking for here in a short period of time is a rare stroke of good luck. Finally, I run a weekly PF game that meets on Friday or Saturday nights (depending on everyone's schedule), usually at 9pm EST; it's a homebrew campaign and everyone is there for the camaraderie as much as the adventure. If you're interested drop me a PM and we can talk it over and see if it would be a fit. If not, I wish you luck in your search :)

Everyone makes very good points. RPG games in general have always suffered from a lack of GM's, online or offline. The only thing I would add to their excellent suggestions is to reinforce that two days really is a very short time to find and join a campaign. More often it's closer to a week or so to find a game, organize times and roles, and not actually start playing for a week after that. When you concider that many truely memorable campaign can be measured in years of play, a few days to find one isn't all that much. Try not to get discouraged. We all love to play and new games are created constantly. You just need to be patient, vigilantly look for new opportunities as the come up, and take to heart the suggestions already made regarding visibility, useful info, and respect.

I have a few reasons for not posting any recruitments yet. My summer semester in college is kicking my butt, my primary game I'm running is full, I'm working on another game (anyone familiar with primeval tv series?) but I'm taking my time on getting it set up. Those are my top 3 reasons right now.

jayjay said: I've been looking for a group for awhile now ...well 2 days but still and all the ones either have like 100 players for max or the game isn't for a month -_- hu back to searching This is 100% normal. You should keep checking the LFG for games every day (or every 2-3 days) and keep doing this for 2-3 weeks. I posted the same thing as you, when I had been on this site for 48 hours. I thought "This site advertises games but there are no games open to join on here". I didn't realize the pace and amount of games on here. Riley actually replied and explained it to me back then. Riley is one of the Devs / owners and inventors of Roll20. This was a couple years ago. Riley told me that there were 100's of games happening on Roll20 that day. Just that most of them had already filled up with Players. That's the thing to understand. There are 1000's of games on here. Dozens of new game pitches are listed every day on LFG. Only a few of those listings will appeal to you in the game system you're looking for. Then you apply & a lot of people apply. Most game pitches have more applicants than they can accept. So you have to be prepared to apply for several games before you actually get in a good one that you like and want to continue. At the rate I'm describing, you can see that an appropriate game for you to join, which you apply and get accepted, might only come along once in a week, or 2, or in a month. You just need to keep looking for your search criteria / game system and time you can play, until you find 1 or more games to apply, and then hope to explain to the GM why you should get a spot in their game. If you don't check this site for 4-5 days, you will miss your chance with certain game pitches that are listed & fill up quickly. Check your search again, over-and-over again, every couple days, and keep doing this. It doesn't take just 1-2 days to find a good game to join on this site when you are new, normally. It can take 1 week, 2 weeks, or maybe a month or longer of searching, applying, and trying different campaigns to find your best match.

Gold speaks the truth. The flip side of that is if you are familiar and comfortable enough to gm a game face to face then you are able to do the same here. If you post a recruitment post you will have players crawling over it in a very short time. Usually once a solid group is formed they can take turns gming games. As everyone has said patience along with perseverance and that is the truth.

2 days? That's a big deal for you? As others have pointed out, two days is nothing. Video games may have lulled you into instant gratification and the ability to get several people together in a moment's notice and jump into the action - but pen-and-paper stuff, text- or voice-based alike, doesn't work like that. There is no estimation for how long it may take to find what you're looking for. One of the biggest drawbacks of RPGs is the thing that's most fun about them - that they require other people to play with. This means you're not just looking for generic people to play something generic - you're looking to play the same game with other people who want something similar enough to what you're after. If what you want is Pathfinder or some other D&D variant - congratulations, it won't take long and it's now clear why you would think that a mere two days are a long time between games. That is the dominant game here, the most popular - there seem to be new group postings just about every five minutes looking for those things exactly. The further you move from D&D, however, the harder it gets to find a game, because there are fewer people who know and want to play it - and fewer still who actually want to run it. I have been a Vampire: The Masquerade fan since high-school (and that was in the late 90s), in particular - I always wanted to play Tzimisce. I spent YEARS looking for a group - spreading the word around the roleplayers I knew in my area and posting regularly on whatever forum and bulletin board I could... Nothing . I have NEVER in my life even once actually got to play Tzimisce in a tabletop Vampire game. I only recently (thanks to this site, actually) found people who actually wanted to play that game with me, and I still have never found anyone willing to run it for me . It took me years until I even found people to play Vampire: The Masquerade with, at all ... Let alone my own pet version of it! This is one of those painful truths you learn as you age (sourly) as a roleplayer: The universe doesn't owe you a game. Learn this now, for your own good. If two days of waiting frustrate you, you should know now that there is no time limit on that waiting. No promise that two days won't turn into two years. You might find a group tomorrow , or you may never find even a single person to roleplay with . There is no way of knowing, and there are no guarantees. It's a gamble. The odds are you'll find a group eventually - just know there are no guarantees. All you can do is post in a site like, say, this one (very much like this one - in fact, extremely muchly so...) until you do find people to play with (and on this site, it shouldn't be too hard) and hope that one day people will see the awesomeness in your homebrew, gritty Dark Heresy: Smurfs Edition idea and jump on the golden opportunity to play Assassinette and Psykery...

jayjay said: I've been looking for a group for awhile now ...well 2 days but still and all the ones either have like 100 players for max or the game isn't for a month -_- hu back to searching Jayjay - you might also want to consider looking outside of the Roll20 site. I've posted and/or seen Roll20 games posted on: general RPG boards (like rpg.net and therpgsite.com), genre sites (like dragonsfoot.org), forums specific to a particular game and Google+ communities. Personally, I tend to get better recruitment results from a Google+ listing but your mileage may vary.

I am having trouble finding players who want to play anything besides the most well known games, and I also have trouble getting people to show up to the games and even more trouble getting players to show up more than once.

I've found that it really depends on what game you want to play. If you're wanting to play things like D&D and Pathfinder well there are hundreds of those, and thousands of people who want to play them because their so popular. Then if you want to play something a little less popular it's about finding a group because 90% of all games you'll find here are for D&D, Pathfinder and Warhammer. It took me forever to find a Pendragon group, and when that group fell apart there were no other games for it so I eventually started my own. I was lucky enough to find someone willing to GM so I could play but at the same time I could have ended up GMing it. Give it time and you'll find a game :) Baked Beans said: I am having trouble finding players who want to play anything besides the most well known games, and I also have trouble getting people to show up to the games and even more trouble getting players to show up more than once. I guess it depends on what you want to play I generally avoid popular games. (That aren't Dungeon World)

Cody R. said: I've found that it really depends on what game you want to play. If you're wanting to play things like D&D and Pathfinder well there are hundreds of those, and thousands of people who want to play them because their so popular. Baked Beans said: I am having trouble finding players who want to play anything besides the most well known games, and I also have trouble getting people to show up to the games and even more trouble getting players to show up more than once. I guess it depends on what you want to play I generally avoid popular games. (That aren't Dungeon World) That is very true. Most of the games played here are D&D (includes all the various editions) or clones of them in one manner or another but if you are patient you could find one.

I think we threadjacked enough here anyway. Good luck jayjay and remember give it time and keep looking. You will find a game.

thanks I really didn't expect to get so many answers so quick :) oh and Ironhead I might just do that thx

It's been mentioned before, but it's worth repeating - grammar and courtesy. If you apply to a game, do it in a private message to the GM or coordinator and do it in the best English that you can muster. Use punctuation and triple-check your spelling, if you are not confident about it. Any GM advertising will probably receive 20 or more applicants for any open slot, and since communication is the life-blood of roleplaying, bad English is usually the first benchmark.

Ya thanks again all

I would add just one thing. Don't be afraid to be the GM. I would encourage any players out there who are having a hard time finding a game, to put on the GM's hat, and just dive in. It's a fantastic mental exercise, and it never gets old. Do be prepared to work for it though. Once you become a GM, you really appreciate the hard work and imagination that goes into a great custom campaign. In my experience, the best players all have some GM experience. Making you into a better player is a great side benefit of GM'ing.

ya i'm sorta GMing with a few of my friends but I love being in the situation

Dude I once spent 3 weeks looking for a game of dark heresy. I did not find one. I then came online to see what was going on 2 weeks later. And I got into a EOTE game after 2 hours of looking. Roll of the dice.

I couldn't find games. So I started one! Then I met a lot of other players that like to run games. That, combined with this forum and Reddit's LFG means I have no problems finding games. Then again, I'm more open minded. I'm not one of those "I will only play 3.5/Pathfinder/4e!!!" guys.