Game Default Settings Help

I have tried and tried for many hours to get the default game settings to actually take hold in my tokens and sheets. I have searched far and wide for answers, and only seem to find posts from years ago that don't have any bearing now, and I have tried all of the suggestions within. I have tried fully reloading the game after making changes, swapping view points, and everything. Including going to the Misc options in-game to actually apply and select the settings. Nothing seems to enable the defaults I want. Well, some of them get enabled. Name plates seem to function correctly, but nothing else does. Am I doing something horribly wrong?

Which settings are you trying to set? Be as specific as possible please.

I'm trying to set the nameplates not showing (which seems to be working), bars 1 and 2 tied to hp and ac respectively, with max value for hp being max_hp, and then also auto whisper rolls to the DM. It seems like bar location/style and player visibility for NPC tokens is working as expected. But those other items just dont' seem to take at all. 

Is this what you are trying to apply in game? 

Mostly, yes. Few other things on the other token options, but mostly those are the ones I want to take. I don't want to have to keep setting those values for each new monster brought in. What am I doing wrong?

Those sections are for compendium entries, not the entire campaign.  When you drag a compendium entry to the game those settings determine the starting settings the tokens will have.  It states that under the entry "On Default Tokens created by doing a Compendium drop onto the virtual table top, link the Bar 3's value to this attribute. If set this will override all other bar settings." What other settings are giving you trouble? 

Yes, but that's what I'm doing. I'm getting monsters from the Compendium and dragging them into my game. No sense in re-creating sheets when they already exist for me.  It may be minor, but the auto-whisper to DM doesn't seem to take either for sheets brought from the Compendium as well. Is there any way to tie those token values into dynamic values for hp/ac then?

Could you screenshot your campaign details page settings? Please show each setting that is not working, so I can test them. 

One thing to keep in mind when testing (since it could throw off results), is that if a creature already exists in your game, a compendium drag will only result in another instance of the existing creature, as if you had dragged it from your journal tab. This is intended, and it allows users to preserve homebrew changes without accidentally overwriting them with a compendium drag. So while testing, make sure that you are compendium-dragging a creature not already present in your game.

After reading what you guys have said, and doing a little testing myself, I figured out a couple of my own shortcomings. First, the "Whisper Rolls to GM" appears to happen regardless of how the rolls are marked on the sheet. I was not aware of that. I thought it would set a default value for that toggle, not set a game-wide blanket result. That's what I didn't think the option was being applied, since all sheets were still set to the "Public" value. @Gauss, the settings you screenshot and showed are currently still not taking.  Gauss said: Those sections are for compendium entries, not the entire campaign.  When you drag a compendium entry to the game those settings determine the starting settings the tokens will have.  It states that under the entry "On Default Tokens created by doing a Compendium drop onto the virtual table top, link the Bar 3's value to this attribute. If set this will override all other bar settings." If what you said is true, why are brand new tokens and sheets dragged from the Compendium not having these changes to the bar values? Shouldn't it show the AC/HP bars if these settings are applying, or am I completely misunderstanding the point of these settings?

FloridaMan said: After reading what you guys have said, and doing a little testing myself, I figured out a couple of my own shortcomings. First, the "Whisper Rolls to GM" appears to happen regardless of how the rolls are marked on the sheet. I was not aware of that. I thought it would set a default value for that toggle, not set a game-wide blanket result. That's what I didn't think the option was being applied, since all sheets were still set to the "Public" value. @Gauss, the settings you screenshot and showed are currently still not taking.  Gauss said: Those sections are for compendium entries, not the entire campaign.  When you drag a compendium entry to the game those settings determine the starting settings the tokens will have.  It states that under the entry "On Default Tokens created by doing a Compendium drop onto the virtual table top, link the Bar 3's value to this attribute. If set this will override all other bar settings." If what you said is true, why are brand new tokens and sheets dragged from the Compendium not having these changes to the bar values? Shouldn't it show the AC/HP bars if these settings are applying, or am I completely misunderstanding the point of these settings? Again, please screenshot the settings you are using so I can do some testing and make sure things haven't broken. I would like the exact settings, exactly as you set them up, in order to reproduce this as closely as possible.

Understood. These are the settings I'm trying to apply. My goal is to have new monsters have these AC/HP bars linked already so that I don't have to manually do it every time. Bar 1 max and Bar 2 link were already populated when I loaded the page the first time, and bar 3 items were me just messing around trying to get something to stick. If I'm using this section wrong, and my understanding of how to use this section is wrong, please tell me.

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, life happens.  I took a look at beginning settings and they are not set up the way you have them above.  Bar 1 Value starts with "hp_max"  Bar 1 Max starts with "hp_max" Bar 1 Link is blank Bar 2 Value is blank Bar 2 Max is blank Bar 2 Value is npc_ac Bar 3 Value is blank Bar 3 Max is blank Bar 3 Link is blank So, assuming you wanted to switch bars 1 and 3 then:  Bar 1 Value, Max, and Link should be blank Bar 3 Value should be "hp_max" Bar 3 Max should be "hp_max" Bar 3 Link should be blank Note: the reason Link should be blank for HP is that you do not want HP linked on an NPC token, only the numbers filled out. The Attribute should be "none" when you inspect the token settings. If the Attribute were linked then any change to one token would change every token.  In my testing, doing the above will set up bar 3 correctly, however bar 1 will still show a HP bar. That is a bug and I am reporting that. I suggest you do the same via the Help Center . Are there any other issues I can help with?

One, do you think my issue is related to not having all 3 possibly filled out, or an incorrect combination of the values?  Two, after setting these in the default settings page, how am I best to go about applying? The misc option in the gear then applying those specific items?

1) you had an incorrect set of values for AC and Hitpoints use the setup I outlined above.  2) After setting them on the Campaign Details page you then Apply Default Settings in the game: My Settings tab, Miscellaneous, Apply Default Settings...checkmark the options you want to apply, then click apply and wait for it to tell you it is finished. As stated above though, there is a bug where that doesn't remove Bar 1 properly. I have filed a bug report on it and I suggest you do the same when you encounter it. 

I set my values up as so (I wanted bar 1 to be HP and not bar 3) based on what you said, followed the steps to apply, and nothing. I checked current tokens and dragged new monster sheets from the  Compendium  and added their tokens from the sheets. No bars, no values are being populated for the token bars, nothing. Am I still doing something wrong, do I need to use not bar 1, is that the issue?

You just said something that didn't sound right.  "...dragged new monster sheets from the Compendium and added their tokens from the sheets ." the bolded part is not a standard step.  Could you detail exactly what your steps are? Screenshots would be helpful. Starting with the screenshot of the Compendium.  BTW, which marketplace book are you pulling your Compendium entries from? 

I'm going to be so upset if it's something I was just completely misunderstanding, but here we go. Alright, here I am dragging a creature sheet from the  Compendium to add to the game. Here, I am dragging a new token from the newly added sheet from the  Compendium that is now saved into my journal. And here, shows the two tokens (one being generic and one being tied to the Quipper sheet) showing none of the things I want, like HP and AC. What am I doing wrong/misunderstanding about these settings?

Ooof.....we should have asked from the start....the "SRD" does not include tokens, so there is no token to apply a setting to.  That is why this doesn't work.  Normal tokenized Compendium entries: Drag from Compendium to table, journal entry is added, token is set up in the journal entry, token is dropped onto the table.  SRD entries: Drag from compendium to table, journal entry is added, since there is no token token is not set up, placeholder token is then dropped onto the table.  In short, the SRD has no images, no tokens, they are free. You have to manually set up every asset.  Not-free assets like the Monster Manual work as described in earlier posts. 

Ah....welp, I'm so sorry I wasted your time. In that case, can you tell me what these settings ARE  for? Is it when you click on creating a new sheet? And if that's the case, would these settings apply if I duplicated a sheet I pulled from the  Compendium first?

They are for dragging a Compendium entry to the game...a compendium entry with a token attached...which does not include SRD entries because they have no tokens.  Example: Monster Manual 

So, er...what are those? Items available via the paid resources (ie, bought a book on roll20)?

FloridaMan said: So, er...what are those? Items available via the paid resources (ie, bought a book on roll20)? Yes, they are paid resources. You can find them here . Here is the Monster Manual

Ah, so I see. It's a "free" feature, but you need to pay for the actual resources to use them. So if I were to buy the MM, and then drag from there, my hp and ac bars will be filled based on the info we've already discussed. But, since I don't own any book resources on r20, there's nothing that those settings actually do for me. Is that the gist of the situation here?

Correct I have sent the Devs a note regarding this issue. It should either state on the Campaign Details page that this does not apply to SRD entries (I had forgotten about that as I don't use the SRD) or they should reprogram the system so that the placeholder token gets set up before the settings step applies. 

That would be useful, since it does just say " Compendium" on the page.  Gauss, I immensely  appreciate you're help and your patience with me. Thank you so much.