Maps not adding as maps

So, I have the Map layer selected, but despite this my maps that I have uploaded are being added as tokens, with no obvious way to change this. Is this a jumpgate thing, or is this something I've done wrong when uploading the map? My maps are made in Inkarnate, I've tried both webp and jpg. As standard my maps are 100dpi so a 60x45 grid would work out at as 6000px x 4500px. 

What do you mean by being added as tokens? By default images are added to map in small sizes, but you can keep them from being fitted to grid in that size by alt-dragging them on to the map, and you can right-click and resize them by pixel or by squares, or in Jumpgate, through Advanced Transform, "resize to fit" to match the page dimensions in a dimension.

Map images and token images are both just images to Roll20.   What do you mean they are added as tokens? Do you mean they are sized as 1x1 or 3x3, and not the full size of the VTT window? If you want to use the Smart Sizing feature , then you need to ensure four things: This feature only works when a map is being placed on a blank map layer. Smart Sizing does not work if the map is smaller than the current size of the map. The feature works better with gridless map images. Smart sizing works on personal uploads, not Marketplace purchases. If you can't use the Smart Sizing feature for whatever reason, then you'll have to manually adjust the size of the map image.   Here is my standard process for adjusting maps to line up with the Roll20 grid: Make sure the map image is on the map layer Make sure the map image is set as a ‘drawing’ (right click on the image) Make sure the Roll20 grid is nice and visible - adjust the color to red and turn the transparency up to like 100% Use the ‘align to grid’ feature to get the size close (optional) Move the top left grid on the map image to align with the Roll20 grid Stretch the map image horizontally to the right to align the grid. You may have to repeat 5&6 a couple times Stretch the map image vertically down to align to the Roll20 grid Turn the grid color back to whatever you want (light grey and more transparent, or just off if the map image has grid lines already) Right-click on the map and lock it in place so you don't accidentally move it later (optional) Change the map image back to not be a 'drawing' (optional - this will prevent the map image from being deleted if you use the 'Clear Drawings' tool)

Wow, sorry I've come over from Owlbear Rodeo which is just so much more intuitive a system to use, even with all its extensions! So, the map images just get added as a small image and you have to size them to each 'page'. Do I have that right? I assume then that a standard DPI isn't used here to take some of the workload off the user? What I mean by this is that if 70px x 70px is the standard grid size, Roll20 doesn't see a 700x700px image as a 10 by 10 grid automatically?

MartinTheActor said: Wow, sorry I've come over from Owlbear Rodeo which is just so much more intuitive a system to use, even with all its extensions! So, the map images just get added as a small image and you have to size them to each 'page'. Do I have that right? I assume then that a standard DPI isn't used here to take some of the workload off the user? What I mean by this is that if 70px x 70px is the standard grid size, Roll20 doesn't see a 700x700px image as a 10 by 10 grid automatically? Many people do not know about the 70x70pixel grid size. And many images have higher pixel counts per grid square for quality purposes. So assuming a 700x700 pixel image means 10x10 grid squares only happens if you are using the Smart Sizing feature, and then it depends on the rules of that feature as Jarren outlined above.  I think the main one that is tripping you up is the page size. You need to make it small to recognize the image as something to resize the grid to.  This allows folks to put high quality (greater than 70px per square) small images (such as furniture) on a map without it trying to expand that image. 

Actually the page size is what surprised me. I set the page size to 60x45 grid before importing a 6000px by 4500px image for the map. I was expecting to have to slightly resize it, but it took me by surprise when I selected the tiny image and found that the same options for tokens came up despite being on the map layer.  To be fair, I have to say I hadn't expected so popular a service as Roll20 to be so very far behind the standards of other VTTs.  Thanks for the help. It's appreciated.

MartinTheActor said: Wow, sorry I've come over from Owlbear Rodeo which is just so much more intuitive a system to use, even with all its extensions! Yeah, Owlbear Rodeo is a bit more intuitive, but it is also not as complex.  Each VTT is going to have its Pros and Cons - Owlbear certainly has a lower barrier to entry and ease of use than Roll20. So, the map images just get added as a small image and you have to size them to each 'page'. Do I have that right? If you add an image to a blank map layer, where the size of the VTT is smaller than the size of the image, then the Smart Sizing feature should automatically help you size the page to the image.  Otherwise, yes, you have to resize the image to the size of the page. I've found that many free battlemap images that are available from various sites often do not have a consistent size for the border of the image versus the grid.  That's why the third bullet point says "The feature works better with gridless map images.".  If each grid on the map image is 70px, but there is a border around the edge that is only 25px, then the Roll20 grid cannot automatically line up with the map image - you have to intentionally offset the edge of the map image to line up correctly. I almost always have extra space around the map image as well, so that I can move extra tokens to a space where my players can't see . Or for combat I may have several similar monsters (such as a group of goblins) that are all going to share initiative, so I'll have a generic 'Goblin' token off of the map that I used to represent that group's collective initiative in the Turn Tracker. I assume then that a standard DPI isn't used here to take some of the workload off the user? What I mean by this is that if 70px x 70px is the standard grid size, Roll20 doesn't see a 700x700px image as a 10 by 10 grid automatically? 70px x 70px is the default size for Roll20's grid , but there are other VTTs that use a different standard, and many mapmaking softwares use a different default.  So it's typical to find images that do not follow that standard.  I've found that 140px x 140px or 175px x 175px is the best for image quality on Roll20, because you can zoom in to the image, and you don't want to lose quality when zoomed in.  

Smart Sizing also assumes 70 pixels to the grid line, the Roll20 default.