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using non-standard dice (special symbols)

February 16 (1 month ago)

It is possible to use not only the standard dice, but also those with special symbols on it, eg. Sword&Sorcery, Fallout, etc?

I know that I can make a rollable table with pictures of each dice side, but that allows me only to roll 1 die each and display the results in the chat. But the pictures there are fairly small and the size seems not changeable. Is there a smooth way to make this work? I'm sure that others also tried to import such games to roll20, but I was not able to find something in the forum.

February 16 (1 month ago)

A couple of options I can think of - create tokens of these tables, get them on the tabletop, scale them up to your liking, and roll them by choosing random side. Or, you could try making a custom deck of cards to serve as dice, set to not remove the drawn cards from the deck to stimulate dice. 

February 17 (1 month ago)
Gold
Forum Champion

Yeah I agree that's terrible the small-size graphic and strange-looking output when you try to Roll a rollable table with graphics. It's been touted as a way to do custom dice sets, and while it might be OK for a dice-sized graphic with really simple faces (like putting a Skull instead of 1 dot on a d6)... Otherwise it's really bad and could be so much better. There's no good reason for it not to show a full-size or chat-width sized image, but that's what we are stuck with. I haven't even seen a Suggestion thread to fix this.

That's also annoying how you can't roll a Rollable Table mutliple times like this doesn't work:

[[3t[Roll-Yes-Or-No]]]

This workaround does work to roll it 3 times, but is cumbersome and not good:

[[1t[Roll-Yes-Or-No]]], [[1t[Roll-Yes-Or-No]]], [[1t[Roll-Yes-Or-No]]]

So I agree with the downsides listed in the OP and replicated the issues. 

I use Rollable Tables a lot for Mad-Libs style where the Table items simply have words, not images. It works well for me, for that purpose. But rollable tables could easily do so much more, with a bit of features improvement from Roll20.

It's quite sad that Roll20 Staff updates have been constantly entirely focused on D&D 5E 2024 for months and months, with no progress on system-agnostic tabletop feature additions or Forum Suggestions. Even with Jumpgate out-of-beta, this trend continues. 

February 17 (1 month ago)
timmaugh
Pro
API Scripter

With scripts, you can access the multiple-returns-from-a-rollable-table:

[[3t[Roll-Yes-Or-No]]].items

...but with the OP at the Plus level, I understand it's likely scripts aren't available.

February 17 (1 month ago)
Gold
Forum Champion

Timmaugh, thanks for that, 

Is there a Mod script that returns larger-size pictures of Rollable Table images rolled into Chat? 

In default Roll20 the output from the rollable table image looks like this and is about this size,

(•) =
0
February 17 (1 month ago)

Gold said:

Timmaugh, thanks for that, 

Is there a Mod script that returns larger-size pictures of Rollable Table images rolled into Chat? 

Yes: Faces script

February 17 (1 month ago)

Edited February 17 (1 month ago)

Going to mention again the option of rolling tables as tokens - you can roll them in groups and you can scale them up to any size you want on the table, and it'll send out a message to chat too for verification.

EDIT: Added images

EDIT2: Though it should be noted that the random token side roll doesn't respect the table weights.

February 17 (1 month ago)

thanks for all the input. 

The card deck option seems to be the most simple way, since I'm alredy using these a lot; at least for small die numbers. For the macro solution I'll need to have a little more time. Sounds not that easy.

February 17 (1 month ago)
timmaugh
Pro
API Scripter


Gold said:

Timmaugh, thanks for that, 

Is there a Mod script that returns larger-size pictures of Rollable Table images rolled into Chat? 

In default Roll20 the output from the rollable table image looks like this and is about this size,

(•) =
0


Fetch can also return those:

@(table.TableName.indexOfItem.img)

...or, in practice for a table named "Roll-Yes-Or-No" and looking for the item with index 1:

@(table.Roll-Yes-Or-No.1.img)

Also, you can return a random entry (like rolling a die) by using "1dt" (read that mentally as "1-die-table") as the index:

@(table.Roll-Yes-Or-No.1dt.img)



February 23 (1 month ago)


Tuo said:

Going to mention again the option of rolling tables as tokens - you can roll them in groups and you can scale them up to any size you want on the table, and it'll send out a message to chat too for verification.

EDIT: Added images

EDIT2: Though it should be noted that the random token side roll doesn't respect the table weights.

I just tried the multiside-token solution and found it working surprisingly well. My first thoughts were that it would be feel a bit clumsy for rolling multiple die, but it's as simple and smooth as using the roll20 dice generator and that feels OK for what it has to do. 

But the carddeck solution isn't out of my thought either. There are even boardgames like Oathsworn using this mechanism on the real table (no unlimited decks for decreased hig/low-rolls there) and its working pretty good there.

Thanks again for the help.

February 23 (1 month ago)
GiGs
Pro
Sheet Author
API Scripter


Tuo said:

Going to mention again the option of rolling tables as tokens - you can roll them in groups and you can scale them up to any size you want on the table, and it'll send out a message to chat too for verification.

EDIT: Added images

EDIT2: Though it should be noted that the random token side roll doesn't respect the table weights.


Thats a great approach, though i didnt realise it didnt respect weighting