This must be something I did, though I have not really done anything with macros on my two active games until yesterday and today. Somehow, I'm seeing what look like macros from Vince's AD&D 1e sheet. Most of the guys in this game are too dumb , LOL I mean computer illiterate to even know what macros are and 3 out of 5 of them play face to face: I just ran one and got the following result: But this seems quite different from what I get when I select a cleric in this game, or the other game (I'm running same campaign for 10 players in 2 different games): What have those dummies LOL I mean I done? -- Tim