We seem to be having endless debates about rules in game. In future, I will rule and we will move on quickly because our major issue in Maladon is not application of rules, it's truly TERRIBLE timekeeping; mostly on my part. For this I apologise profusely but also must let you know that it's likely to continue because my job requires me to be on call pretty much 24/7. I have had phone calls at 2 am in the morning from my workmates in the US or China many times and as long as I have that job there is a chance I will get a call 5 minutes into or 5 minutes before a session. Sadly, 6 pm my time seems to have become a favourite calling time recently.............. After the session, if my rules application was wrong with RAW or RAI please make me aware of it and I will correct for next time. When you do that, cite the text in the PHB or link me to it so that I can see exactly where I have gone wrong. One thing I want to avoid is inconsistent rulings; not always possible because 5e is JUST close enough to 3.5 to completely confuse the years of experience I have with the earlier edition and sometimes I end up, on the fly, reverting to 3.5 mode when I am having a bad day. Anyway; in the interests of clearing up issues with things, here are the rules we are adhering to, together with the quote from the PHB or Sage advice that supports them: 1) Perception; this is not radar and does not allow you to detect everything in your field of view just because you roll well. Here is what the PHB says about this; FINDING A HIDDEN OB)ECT When your character searches for a hidden object such as a secrel door or a trap, lhe DM typically asks you to make a Wisdom (Perceplion) check. Such a check can be used to find hidden detalls or other information and clues that you might otherwise overlook. In most cases, you need lo describe where you are looking in order for lhe DM to determine your chance of success. For example, a key is hidden benealh a set of folded clothes in lhe top drawer of a bureau. If you tell lhe DM that you pace around lhe room, looking at the walls and furniture for clues, you have no chance of finding lhe key, regardless of your Wisdom (Perceplion) check result. You would have to specify that you were opening lhe drawers or searching lhe bureau in order to have any chance of success. If you want to actively search for something, that is an ACTION; including if you are trying to find a monster you heard by passive peception but cannot see, or trying to find a monster who is hidden. Likewise, if you are searching for a secret door or other object, your Wisdom check does not apply if a monster creeps up on you (though you still get your passive Perception). Essentially you are distracted.......... So; my advice is when the party enters a room, you cover the doors or doorways and one person covers each entry and exit with active perception checks and another just stands with them with the benefit of passive perception. Meanwhile, other characters actively search specific walls and floor areas for hidden objects/doors/etc. As an addendum to this; if you want to search for a secret door, 30 seconds allows you to search a wall/floor section 10ft x 10ft in area.