Please give us the option to disable the pen tool for our players

One or two of my players like to scribble when they're bored, 'for kicks', and as we all know they aren't easy to erase without deleting other tokens. Or at least make it easier to get rid of their drawings.

<a href="http://community.roll20.net/discussion/comment/1964" rel="nofollow">http://community.roll20.net/discussion/comment/1964</a> People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to affect, but actually, from a non-linier, non subjective point of view it is more like a big ball of wibbily wobbly timey wimey...stuff

Two words: Grudge Monsters :)

Well at least I got a chance to see a thread where the developers basically said 'we don't care, we aren't doing anything about it.' Thanks for the link though. better to know then not to know. It's too bad that a thread like that got such a hostile response.

<a href="http://community.roll20.net/discussion/comment/1964" rel="nofollow">http://community.roll20.net/discussion/comment/1964</a> People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to affect, but actually, from a non-linier, non subjective point of view it is more like a big ball of wibbily wobbly timey wimey...stuff Ken wins a "no prize". Two words: Grudge Monsters :) Also amazing. Man, if each wang doodle actually became a giant wang monster... lessons learned! And finally: Well at least I got a chance to see a thread where the developers basically said 'we don't care, we aren't doing anything about it.' Thanks for the link though. better to know then not to know. It's too bad that a thread like that got such a hostile response. You will get more chances as time goes on. Promise. Seriously, though... I maintain that this is a "personal problem" or maybe a "personnel problem". You are coming to us saying, "my players are bored with my game and so they use Roll20 to entertain themselves". I cannot, in good faith, take away the ability to doodle orc wangs that add the spice to otherwise boring campaigns.

Ken wins a "no prize". I shall treasure it forever, and put it on the mantle next to my non-existent sports trophies.

Why not at least limit player edits to their own layers, etc... Players are going to goof around, and pretending that they don't (or rather: pretending that your web app will only be used by "quality personnel" who don't goof around) seems unrealistic. When someone swaps a mini on a physical table for a vienna sausage or whatever, the damage is easy to fix for anyone. Undoing edits on the map is very hard.

Under the context, and knowing exactly what bored/excitable players can and will draw (session before last where I was a player, the girls dedicated some time between turns complaining that hastily sketched fallen log looked vaguely phallic and then remedied it by making it very phallic) I'm really really REALLY hoping "Vienna Sausage" is not an euphemism...

For the record: "vienna sausage" was totally a euphemism. Sorry.

Why not at least limit player edits to their own layers, etc... Players are going to goof around, and pretending that they don't (or rather: pretending that your web app will only be used by "quality personnel" who don't goof around) seems unrealistic. When someone swaps a mini on a physical table for a vienna sausage or whatever, the damage is easy to fix for anyone. Undoing edits on the map is very hard. I'm not a member of the dev team but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night but I remember reading somewhere that for every layer added it was another hit to performance. I know drawing tools are undergoing a total overhaul right now, and, what may make it easier is to go cast your vote to change drawing from vector to raster, so there can be an eraser tool that wouldn't affect token items. This would probably make it a lot easier to do away with all those Vienna sausages without accidentally erasing tokens.

but I remember reading somewhere that for every layer added it was another hit to performance. Only if those layers are implemented as layers when drawn. If you tag elements of one real layer with a "logical layer id", and implement a function that deletes all objects with the same logical layer id, that is free.

I don't really think this is a very high priority, but just as an example yesterday we had our first game, and as soon as my players discovered they had a drawing tool the first thing they drew was a circle, and the second thing was, well.... begins with "p" and ends in "enis".