Recommendations For Character Sheet & Script Testing

Hey all, I've been dorking around with modifying character sheets to fit a homebrew campaign currently in the works for roll20 using <a href="https://fiddle.jshell.net/" rel="nofollow">https://fiddle.jshell.net/</a> but the performance isnt quiiiiite there esp with heaps of code. Any suggestions on alternative platforms or better practices? All advice is welcomed. Thanks.

The only thing available is to setup a game and select a Custom Sheet and then paste the HTML and CSS in.

Walt S, Thanks for the info, perhaps I am stuck with tedium

Notepad++(free) or other similar text editors could help out in showing the code clearer and speed up editing, but then you'd have to copypaste stuff back and forth for testing. Notepad++ have color schemes it can utilize to highlight tags, classes and brachets for better overview.

Andreas J. said: Notepad++(free) or other similar text editors could help out in showing the code clearer and speed up editing, but then you'd have to copypaste stuff back and forth for testing. Notepad++ have color schemes it can utilize to highlight tags, classes and brachets for better overview. cheers

I use Notepad++ for all of my Roll20 macros, be they simple one-liners or complex Powercard monstrosities.&nbsp; The ability to see at a glance any lack of closing ) ] }'s is really really useful.&nbsp; My swearing rate dropped considerably after getting Notepad++ ;)

I used to use Notepad++, but thanks to a suggestion on these forums I tied out Visual Studio Code (it's free), and it's very code. has all the notepad++ advantages, plus code completion and other stuff.

GenKitty said: I use Notepad++ for all of my Roll20 macros, be they simple one-liners or complex Powercard monstrosities.&nbsp; The ability to see at a glance any lack of closing ) ] }'s is really really useful.&nbsp; My swearing rate dropped considerably after getting Notepad++ ;) lollz IDT my swearing rate will ever drop&nbsp;

G G said: I used to use Notepad++, but thanks to a suggestion on these forums I tied out Visual Studio Code (it's free), and it's very code. has all the notepad++ advantages, plus code completion and other stuff. Cheers, Ill check it out

DLB said: Walt S, Thanks for the info, perhaps I am stuck with tedium Tedium? It takes less than 10 seconds to cut and paste, save and refresh a test game. &nbsp;I hate to think what you would have made of having to program in the 80s&nbsp;

Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit.

Walt S said: DLB said: Walt S, Thanks for the info, perhaps I am stuck with tedium Tedium? It takes less than 10 seconds to cut and paste, save and refresh a test game. &nbsp;I hate to think what you would have made of having to program in the 80s&nbsp; lools well, I suppose it's a generational thing then. In the 80s, I was "programming" on LOGO Writer, but too busy worrying about Thundercats and Masters of the Universe to care about much else

I have a gulp script that uploads html, css, and translations. For shaped it takes about 6-10s to upload and then a refresh and load of a character sheet so about 30s per change, but it's way better than nnormal. Let me know if you'd be interested.

Kryx said: I have a gulp script that uploads html, css, and translations. For shaped it takes about 6-10s to upload and then a refresh and load of a character sheet so about 30s per change, but it's way better than nnormal. Let me know if you'd be interested. Kryx, yeah ofc I'm interested. Thanks

G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. The only thing that really needs tweaking is editing CSS, and I usually do that in the inspector and then write the results to CSS.

Jakob said: G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. The only thing that really needs tweaking is editing CSS, and I usually do that in the inspector and then write the results to CSS. For me it's the Sheet Workers, especially when trying to track down bugs, or testing changes to code. Adding console.log commands, making a small change, reloading, etc. all takes so long.

G G said: Jakob said: G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. The only thing that really needs tweaking is editing CSS, and I usually do that in the inspector and then write the results to CSS. For me it's the Sheet Workers, especially when trying to track down bugs, or testing changes to code. Adding console.log commands, making a small change, reloading, etc. all takes so long. EASY, just write correct code on the first attempt /s.

So that's where I've been going wrong!

DLB said: Kryx, yeah ofc I'm interested. Thanks I've set up a gist with the basic code. If you know some Gulp it should be fairly easy to set up.&nbsp; <a href="https://gist.github.com/mlenser/c938eea5a390a63080" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/mlenser/c938eea5a390a63080</a>...

G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. Millennials lools.&nbsp;

Walt S said: G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. Millennials lools.&nbsp; hahaah, my pops says the same thing when pointing out that he did all of his programming on 80 chara punch cards

Kryx said: DLB said: Kryx, yeah ofc I'm interested. Thanks I've set up a gist with the basic code. If you know some Gulp it should be fairly easy to set up.&nbsp; <a href="https://gist.github.com/mlenser/c938eea5a390a63080" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/mlenser/c938eea5a390a63080</a>... cheers

Walt S said: G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. Millennials lools.&nbsp; lol, i think you might be surprised to learn my age. But i move with the times, and know we can expect more from technology now!

G G said: Walt S said: G G said: Regardless of how it was in the 80s, it is pretty bad, especially with how basic the parser is.&nbsp; Character sheet editing is waay worse than Script editing though, having to reload the campaign between every change feels like it takes forever when you are are tweaking bit by bit. Millennials lools.&nbsp; lol, i think you might be surprised to learn my age. But i move with the times, and know we can expect more from technology now! How exactly do you think you would actually test it, even if given full access to the back end without refreshing a page.

Taking your question literally, Walt, and sidestrpping the snarky tone - look back to the first post in this thread. DLB was looking for ways to simulate the roll20 environment to avoid having to deal with the slowness and tedium it presents during testing. Something like that would be ideal. A local sandbox you oculd run without internet connection would be pretty great. Do I expect the rolll20 devs to create anything like that? No, they have other priorities and that's fine. My comment was just a tongue in cheek response to being called a millenial, lol. Don't read too much into it.