When ever I had something that struck me as odd I found other people had already brought it up before. I wanted to join the discussion but because I'm 2 months late I'd have to open up my own thread, and because I'm not already a well established member I'd feel weird opening a bunch of threads about things that were already discussed before... Maybe this closing of old threads explains why there's 3 pages of search results related to paypal or alternative methods of payment, and quite a few about character sheets. I find the many 1 page short threads on the same topic really confusing and inappropriate. I assume no one expects me to open and read them all but I feel like I ought to try my best to find an answer before I ask. So I tried, and I found repeatedly that there's no plans of making a different payment method available. I saw a few reasons, but surely I didn't dig deep enough cause I can't wrap my head around that. One of the threads was literally named "shut up and take my money". Worried about having difficulty predicting how much money will be coming when? Alright, might be worth thinking about, but you're losing money over it. Many people (including some of the prior posters and myself) will never subscribe to anything. It might be nice and cozy predictable income for you, but it's severe stress for people who aren't sure if they cancelled when they needed to and boom they're stuck for another year. To some subscriptions have incredibly negative connotations and associations... I'm really poor and I'm neither an online GM nor an online player. But I enjoy fiddling around with roll20. Except lots of things are unnecessarily inconvenient. An easy script could ... oh right. You can do that but you have to be paying member. I struggled with that for a long time, how I really don't need the membership for anything, and I don't have an extra 100 $ to spend this year on this. But I decided I do have 10. I was pissed about the subscription business model but I decided I'd pay for a month and then cancel right away. Right after paying. If I change my mind later I can just buy another membership later. And then it's asking my credit card info. - Do you know what you get charged if you forget to pay that back on time? Relatively ridiculous amounts of money. On 10 $ twenty percent is absolutely small, but it's still relatively huge. Using my credit card is stressful. Manually updating character sheets that who knows if anyone is ever going to use is stressful too... but... either source of stress feels really unnecessary. I remember reading in one of those posts about character sheets that roll20 isn't a video game (as though it would follow that therefor automatizing tedious things isn't a priority). It's not a video game. But it could be better than one. - The reason DM's better than video games is not because they're good at doing math and telling you how hard you hit the goblin but because they react meaningfully to your choices - even if, or especially if, they weren't expecting you to make that kind of choice at all. A video game can't react to "I drop my weapons and give him a hug". Freedom is why RPG is great. And automatizing as much of the crunch as possible frees up the GM to do meaningful things. It was really weird for me reading about people having to redo their macros. It's strange for me that I can't seem to find a way to copy macros I just created for one character to another character. What format would you use for exporting characters? It's basically just text that has to go in specific places, right? Couldn't a well structured exel or "open office calc" document deal with that? Taking the same character from one place to another would then be easy... but I guess you couldn't sell that as a mentor only function... oddly the dynamic lighting does feel deluxe to me, like it's something special you made for us and thus can sell to us, while not having access to attempting my luck on those codes that could keep me from wasting lots of time feels just wrong :-S The page says I've been "playing" for 25 hours... it's actually 0. Can't believe how just prepping can eat time if you'll let it. Anyways, some people are never going to buy subscriptions. - Those people you could reach by other means if you had more channels open. I'm pretty sure if you set up a way where people can donate to you (any amount they want) every now and then people will do that (independently and thus on top of your normal subscription stuff). Maybe it could be like kickstarter donations, where you can give what ever you want, but if you give a certain amount it'll have positive side effects. Perhaps if they donate 10 bucks or more they get mentor rights until 1 month from when the payment went in. English is my second language and I'm really really tired, cause I didn't sleep last night (working on some stupid map for no particular reason) but tried being respectful. Hope that came through. I love the work you do. It just makes it so much more frustrating when I feel like there might be an easy fix that would make it better - even if perhaps I'm just too blind to see why that particular fix might not work. I do appreciate what you're doing. Thanks for everything, Julian