Character thoughts so far?

Hey everyone, nice to meet you all! Looking forward to playing with each of you. I just wanted to gauge everyone's character thoughts so far? I'm thinking of trying something I normally don't get to try, like Vigilante, or Investigator. But Inquisitor seems like a super solid choice too.

I, myself, currently have a 3rd-party monstrous option in mind (with the approval of the DM) of a Rakshasa character. If any of you happen to be curious about its particular mechanics, I can answer any specific questions you have a bit later once we have the luxury of talking in person, but the simplest archetype to equate it with here would be a bard or magus - A physical combatant who simultaneously possesses good social skills/tricks and will later on unlock and awaken some sorcererial spellcasting (up to 10th lv.) to boot.

Vigilante, may be possible but I don't know what your alter ego would be exactly, and how it can fit here. Unless of course it's lawful good one side/lawful evil the other. Could be interesting.  Investigator is a fine choice, and yes Inquisitor is for sure packed with flavor and power for this ap. In my other in person version of this we have a gunslinger/inquisitor. 

I should also mention, you won't have to worry about balancing the party or that kind of stuff I do take note of strengths of your characters and if needed I'll tweak battles in such a way that your characters regardless of the make and model will shine.  Most of the time though, players find ways to make up for lacks of other roles pretty easily with out even trying :)

I do believe Azor, is a fire sorcerer of some type (not really sure beyond that though)

Yes, i am playing a Human Tattooed sorcerer, focus on Fire.

So I reviewed Vigilante, and I think it could work. It would be something you would have to work around, because one side of you has to be the forsaken, evil follower of asmodeus obviously.  And as far as I can tell, there is going to be a lot of stuff to RP with. It does seem to be lacking in fighting arena.  Investigator would def be solid. 

I just know I am gonna be playing a Summoner. Haven't got to play one yet, as most games have the class banned. I really like the sound of the Blood Summoner archetype for this campaign, seems very fitting. On the other hand, a Synthesist could become a very hard to kill frontliner for the party. If I take Immunity[Fire] later on, the party Sorcerer can lob AoE fire spells without fear of pissing off Carmilla and what-not. Lots to consider.

Yeah I hear ya, summoners can break the action economy but I've never in any of my time playing found any reason to ban anything, with the exception of leadership and even then this ap uses a modified version of it.    I've played a planar druid (greenbound) summoner in 3.5 with an anthropamorphic bat lol. If that can handle not breaking the game summoners are fine.  But that is why you guys are on the slow progression :)  It's meant to be tough, because in Talingarde, it's a tough ol world for the evil inside :).

So, as far as I can tell, Seagold is a summoner, Dana is a sorcerer, Venomous is looking at investigator/vigilante/inquisitor. An Steven, if I understand, you are choosing the Paragon class for the Rakshasa (or known as the lesser name of Yaksha)?

For the party reference, <a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=13oMu8aBC_I79DztuQquxRgyjEw7M00hx" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/open?id=13oMu8aBC_I79DztuQquxRgyjEw7M00hx</a> If you have concerns let me know, I didn't see anything unusual that would hurt anything. I ask of your opinion of it, because it's not really my game any 3rd party stuff can hurt, it's you. If everyone is cool and comfortable with it. I'm cool with it too. I doubt it'll be a problem.&nbsp; But never hurts to share.&nbsp;

Yes. Rakshasa Paragon. That would be correct.

Help me understand I've never been used to Paragon class is it is own class or does it go next to other classes and replace certain things?

Essentially a 'paragon class' - as the ItCo series defines it - is a basic class not just specifically suited to the classic abilities of a particular race, but can, in fact, only &nbsp;be pursued by members of that particular race which it is crafted for. In this case, only Yaksha characters can take levels of Rakshasa Paragon and become full rakshasa in the process. Not even other evil outsiders or other similar entities can train in the class; only Yaksha. Now, each of the books in the series has a seperate paragon class for each race they cover. One for medusa. One for minotaur. One for wights, and so on. Nothing prevents the basic, 0th-lv. creatures presented in the books from pursuing standard classes, and most of the books contain at least a few racially-tailored archetypes for said standard classes as well. But only the race each book was designed about can take take book's paragon class.

Also, as a side note, a paragon class is always &nbsp;treated as a favored class for the race it was tailored for.

So you can be a standard class and instead of a favored class you take a paragon level at replace whatever corresponding class feature it says to replace

Well, no. Not quite, no. A paragon class isn't an archetype. You can't really just slot in and out level abilities at your whim. You can &nbsp;multiclass with one... For instance if you got all the 'monstrous' power you cared for out of, say, 8 or 10 levels of the Paragon class, you could just stop leveling it and swap over to something like fighter or bard instead.

Also, to clarify, it's not like paladin or monk, where it's a commitment, and once you abandon the class, you can't ever take it again. Someone could conceivably take 5 levels of a paragon class, then level up with 10 levels of a prestige class they qualify for... and then turn around and take 5 more levels of their paragon class just because they changed their mind and want more of it now.

Here now. This might help clarify things: <a href="https://www.filehosting.org/file/details/768565/Player_Paraphernalia_138_The_Elven_Paragon_Doing_it_Old-School.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.filehosting.org/file/details/768565/Player_Paraphernalia_138_The_Elven_Paragon_Doing_it_Old-School.pdf</a> This here is a paragon class specifically designed for elves. It's meant to emulate the feel of the 'old-school' playstyle of elves of the really early editions of D&amp;D... back when 'elf' was a class rather than a race. &nbsp; ONLY ELVES (and half-elves) QUALIFY TO TAKE&nbsp; LEVELS OF THIS CLASS. Now, said elf may feel free to mix the leveling of his class progression up with a few levels of fighter or rogue along the way, if he feels like it, but his dwarven buddy cannot take levels of this class... He has to find his own paragon class instead.

Awesome stuff.&nbsp; Can't wait to see it in action

P.S. For those curious, the dwarven buddy's paragon class is right here. -&nbsp; <a href="https://www.filehosting.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.filehosting.org/</a> file/details/768568/Player_ Paraphernalia_157_The_Dwarven_ Paragon_Doing_it_Old-School_ Again.pdf &nbsp;- :P

Interesting. I see no issue with trying it out, it seems reasonably balanced at a glance. And I'm so far leaning toward Investigator, and will see what I can build with it, and see if I like how it turns out.

Some of these I can understand, I'm not sure multiclassing a dwarven paragon class into a investigator is going to be stellar. Multiclassing in general has always been poor with pathfinder though. You seem to always get more bang for your buck with a single class. The dwarven paragon on its own looks decent enough. I've seen stranger combos before. Just remember you guys are running on slow progression, so your leveling progress is already slow, if you multiclass, you may start to dilute that progress even further Not saying it can't be possible but you'll need every ounce of power you can come up with in the coming sessions

Oh, sorry, I meant I see no problem with other players trying them out. I'm sticking with paizo only stuff, because I do my builds in hero labs, so its much quicker.

Ahh i gotcha. PC GEN is awesome too.&nbsp;

PC Gen is pretty good, I used that until I got pulled onto Hero Labs, each of them have their ups and downs though.

I want a pay for hero labs some day lol. It looks amazing

Me too. I bet it would have been mild to do it bit by bit, but to get everything at once is rather expensive. :P

Yah, getting it bit by bit helps and sometimes they have sales.

Alright, so we're looking at a line up of: Fire Based Sorcerer Empiricist Investigator Summoner Paragon Rakshasa (Monk/Magus/Bard Hybdrid) sorta thing going on.&nbsp; I think it's a pretty good balance!