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Issues with Vampire 20th Anniversary Sheet

Hi! I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post my question, so I'm sorry if this is the wrong place :) Is anyone else having issues with the Vampire 20th Anniversary Edition character sheet? The sheet's main tab was updated and, well, I've lost all the merits and flaws for my npcs since that part was replaced by the path sins new tab. As a GM, I need it back. I had 50+ characters with merits and flaws only there, since I know what those merits and flaws did and filling up the other tab would slow down the creation. Is there a way to reverse the sheet just to recover what I've lost or I will have to do everything again? Here how it looks right now:
We have the same problem here. But the Merits and Flaws can be found under the Attributes and Abilities tab, where you can find the Merits & Flaws box.
Stonewarder said: We have the same problem here. But the Merits and Flaws can be found under the Attributes and Abilities tab, where you can find the Merits & Flaws box. Ohh, I've just found it. You are my hero. At least nothing is lost, I just need to copy it back. Thank you very much! :)
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From my comment in the Bug Forums thread for the same sheet : Andreas J. said: I've submitted a fix for the visual bugs, and the author of the update have been made aware of this thread.
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Hello guys! I know that is important to update things, but it isn't good when you DELETE all the merits and flaw... I have more than 50 sheets that I lost with this unnecessary update. what will I do? re-do things? using a great crystal ball or ouija to ask for guidance? I know that I can find this in atributes, you guys deleted this already when migrated for this model last year. But you know how bad is to change 1 by 1, 50+ sheets? AND me and my friend are about to start a youtube campaing and we have few time to re-do ALL of them. its absurd you guys cant simply do things like this without thinking in those who uses the sheet.
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nananyan said: Hello guys! I know that is important to update things, but it isn't good when you DELETE all the merits and flaw... The merit &amp; flaws were just moved, From the update changelog , the author said: This update covers a number of requested features from users as well as bug fixes. A post to the changes can be found on the forums letting users know. <a href="https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/7944389/slug%7D" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/7944389/slug%7D</a> CWOD V20 Updates: We shrunk the dot size of everything to better fit them on the sheets and make it look much cleaner. Removed the excess Other category and Merits and Flaws at the bottom left of the Primary tab and replaced this with a section for the Sins for the character's Path/Road. These sections already have their own spots so there was no sense in having a second spot for them. A box now surrounds the Virtues that can be clicked on so new players and sheet users know now that it can be changed instead of stumbling upon this features We added a number of Extra Bruised Health Levels. From 3 to 12 in fact. This is obviously for creatures the ST may need to throw at bad players ;) but it can also be useful for house rules or homebrew. The Other Traits tab has been expanded. Now it includes Secondary Abilities that many STs are still very fond of using (and appear in Mage20), this is of course in addition to the 15 Other Traits for those who need it all. Slightly tweaked Experience Tab now instead of a checkbox to show its been complete we've changed this to points spent, and the date they were spent on. This we find has been requested as its more clear when things were obtained. This allows an ST to track purchases precisely and prevents problem players from being dishonest if filled out properly. Combat Tab has been given an expansion with the addition of Vehicles and Havens! We may eventually change the Combat tab to the Equipment tab as it is more appropriate but it isn't a very pressing issue at the moment. We're also taking feedback on this new section. 50+ users of the beta roll out of this feature liked this update in our Discord so we're gonna use it and adjust based on further feedback. Fixes: Fixed the issue of Movement not being tracked properly it'll start with default values for everything now letting players and Storytellers see a proper movement speed. Fixed the issue of the Dice Main and Combat dice sections not playing well with each other. CWOD DAV20 Updates: The old sheet is being replaced with the more robust and feature heavy V20 sheet with of course the necessary changes so that it fits the DAV20 sheet including proper Abilities listed.
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Andreas J. said: The merit &amp; flaws were just moved I'm sorry, but where are they? I can find it only in the Attributes and Abilities tab. I've checked all the tabs and at least in my npcs they are all lost if I don't check the Attributes and Abilities tab. Here's an example: I was reading the post from Rin Vindor in the topic you've posted, this is what he says: "- Rmoved the excess Other category and Merits and Flaws at the bottom left of the Primary tab and replaced this with a section for the Sins for the character's Path/Road. These sections already have their own spots so there was no sense in having a second spot for them. NOTE: This means back up these 3 sections to another spot before the update goes live. " The note is clear, we should back up it BEFORE the update. To be honest, I don't check the forums all the time, so I didn't see the post and there was no warning in the sheet or at the notification bell before the update.
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Andreas J. said: nananyan said: Hello guys! I know that is important to update things, but it isn't good when you DELETE all the merits and flaw... The merit &amp; flaws were just moved, It seems that the variable holding the old merits and flaws (the old typebox, not the new merits and flaws tab) is no longer on display anywhere. Not moved, maybe forgotten? I've also encountered the same issue in my own games. It seems that the author forgot to display the old variable or convert it to the new format. It would be much appreciated if those updates were to be tested by the community or if we could get some kind of warning outside the forums in a very specific topic next time.
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Cris said: It seems that the variable holding the old merits and flaws (the old typebox, not the new merits and flaws tab) is no longer on display anywhere. Not moved, maybe forgotten? Sorry, I'm only repeating what the author said int their update, and didn't think to question that, but it sure seems like you've lost your stats. Removed the excess Other category and Merits and Flaws at the bottom left of the Primary tab and replaced this with a section for the Sins for the character's Path/Road. These sections already have their own spots so there was no sense in having a second spot for them. The good thing is that the stats aren't truly gone, only temporally inaccessible directly on the sheet, so let's hope the update author will fix it soon. I'll stop engaging with this as it's not a game/sheet I'm familiar with and don't have the time to help further.