How do I progress beyond "insert table" in the editor?

im trying to make a character sheet in the format of the web tutorial on Youtube. when i insert a table and write what i need into it, how do i leave the table? clicking outside the fields doesn't work, and Ive tried Esc, Tab, Arrow keys, Ctrl, Shift, everything i could think of. saving changes will close the sheet edit and let me out, but when i go back in and click past the table, it puts my cursor back inside the table.

basically im trying to make a Master copy sheet similar to the one shown in the Table Top Gaming tutorials on Youtube

First you might want to add an additional line or two prior to the table

then you go back one space	and click on the table button	to bring up the number of rows
and column menu	which you can choose how many you want

after you click insert your table will be placed in the journal or handout you are working on while you will also have a line already past the table that you can move to and use.

sometimes its the simple solutions that are the hardest to see. thanks Pat :)

You're welcome. I have to do this when I use a lot of tables in my sheet creations.

Thankfully, this shouldn't be necessary come Wednesday.

I can't believe I didn't do this before character sheets were a thing.

Tables are a very wonky part of the editor, and in my experience are better avoided. If you need to edit them later, like adding or deleting columns or rows, or especially copy and pasting, they tend to break very quickly. When I've used them, I've frequently had to just completely delete a tab;e and start over.

I agree with GG that the tables are very wonky. That is why I only make small specific tables. This allows me to work with them easier. I once made a master table with various tables inside it that either had info or another table in them. I broke it and it never looked right again when I had to edit it.

yeah, ive noticed that when adding rows underneath to a table, it functions correctly. but when i try to add a column to the side, it either adds one to the far left, or somewhere in the middle which requires me to move all the info around. table are also quite difficult to erase. you can remove the text but the frame is more difficult

Roll20 also needs an "Undo" feature so that when a mistake happens, you can just back up and do it again.

ctrl+z is the go back button if you are using windows. I've had to use that so much when working with table that I've memorized that function.

ah ok. same as the drawing tool inside the campaign. i will keep that in mind. thanks again

you're welcome and if you need help, feel free to ask here in the community.

The text editing for Roll20 can be frustrating. What I found to be easier is to create most of my text including any tables is to create a word document first, save as rich text format. Keep the formatting and fonts simple. After you have saved the document in rtf, ctrl-a to select all, ctrl-c to copy, go to Roll20 text field ctrl-v to paste, click save on the Roll20 handout or whatever. This makes dealing with tables so much easier! You may need to go back and clean up the spacing or something after you have saved in roll20, but it's easy once the text and tables are already laid out. Also, if you make tables in this fashion I recommend placing a place holder ( I used a 0 ) in any empty table cells. Sometimes the text editor will shrink the table cell down until you type something in the cell. I'm on my phone right now, but I'll post a copy of my version of a character sheet done in the fashion David, from table top gaming, does on his YouTube tutorial videos. It may be semi obsolete since the recent update, but I still like having a "manual" character sheet, plus I like the rules linking to handouts.

I'm not sure if this text editing technique works with open office (or whatever the open source version of word is called), but I don't see why it wouldn't. The main thing is to save in rich text format. It transfers better to Roll20.

hope this helps.

wow, I've attempted twice to copy and paste my example sheet into this thread and it has failed twice. First time tried to edit original message. Clicked save edit and the edits disappeared. Post a separate post the 2nd time and none of that post showed up... seems to work fine in the campaign UI though. Oh well.

EDIT: I just made a campaign public that has my example template in it. Click HERE to go to the public journal page. Hopefully I did this right...

Wow, that's a lot of tables. I wouldn't risk that in roll20.
That placeholder tip may be helpful.
I had tried making my tables in word, and then pasting them into roll20 when finished, but I *always* realised some time later I needed to edit them, and then things inevitably went kaboom, so I avoid them now.

I had high hopes for the data delve, but I'm irritated that character sheets can only be created by mentors. The roll20 devs lock so many essential tools behind a paywall, I think it's getting near time to move back to MapTools.

Brian said:

G G said:

I had high hopes for the data delve, but I'm irritated that character sheets can only be created by mentors. The roll20 devs lock so many essential tools behind a paywall, I think it's getting near time to move back to MapTools.

Anyone can send a pull request to the GitHub repo. It might be difficult to test your character sheet for every quirk without Mentor status, but you can still create one.

besides, 10 bucks a month is nothing. that's one or two less fast food lunches.

Some people in this world do have extremely limited budgets, and some Roll20 users are unable or unwilling to use a credit card online to pay for the subscription.

Brian said:

Some people in this world do have extremely limited budgets, and some Roll20 users are unable or unwilling to use a credit card online to pay for the subscription.

oh trust me, i know this. im one of those people. :)

I have not used tables yet, but after this forum, I realllly do not want to!

Thayle L. said:

I have not used tables yet, but after this forum, I realllly do not want to!

And thanks to Data Delve, you really don't need to either! =)

Thayle L. said:

I have not used tables yet, but after this forum, I realllly do not want to!

I've used them, and for reasons expressed in this thread, i don't want to use them any more either!
(Sadly, I may have to. Data Delve isn't an answer for me, because I need to be able to design my own character sheets.)