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Characther Sheets editables for Supporters

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Since characther sheets is now available for everyone, customizing the sheets should be able for Supportes, stimulating those who aren't yet. Lot of people speak other languages and have players that don't know enought english to use the templates available. Sisce the anounce of the Data Delve, I spent over a week building a character sheet in portuguese for D&D 3.5E for my players, thinking that I would be able to edit it like in the preview videos.
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Lithl
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Anyone can send a pull request to the GitHub repo. Personally, I would recommend sending the pull request to suldae's fork , since he's the author of the 3.5 sheet, rather than directly to the official Roll20 sheet. That way there would be less chance for diverging functionality between the two languages.
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Tom
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How does one put in a request? How specific does it have to be? Should it be? Are there any existing guidelines?
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Lithl
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Pull Request is a specific term. Git Hub has instructions on how to create pull requests with their system. If you want to contribute to a repo, you should fork that repo, push changes to your fork, and the create a pull request using your updated fork. Assuming the request is accepted, your fork will then be merged with the repo you forked from. If you forked from, for example, suldae's fork of the Roll20 repo, suldae would then send a pull request to Roll20.
Would it be a good ideai putting each template in each language? How many templates would we get? It would be more easy if the GM could edit and translate it for your own language.
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Lithl
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To quote Riley on the subject during the beta: Yeah, this is definitely on our radar...unfortunately I'm not sure yet how complicated it will be...I believe JS has some pretty robust and easy-to-use client-side libraries which should make this pretty easy to do. I'll let you know what I come up with. There's also consideration for multiple configurations of a single sheet in the future. For now, I would personally recommend creating the translation as a subdirectory (eg, D&D_3-5/POR), although I can't say that would function correctly with the way the character sheet list is generated; Riley might need it to be at the top level (eg, D&D_3-5_POR).
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Gold
Forum Champion
I would like to make minor changes to a Char Sheet which would be specific for my campaign, not a general offering for everyone. (And would consider upgrading my subscription level to do this). For example, translation to another language, would be useful for everyone, so that kind of change would involve working with the GitHub sheet authors, and uploading the revised version into GitHub for Community sheets access. But what if I just want to add 1 custom ability, that is only used in my campaign? A homebrew field on the character sheet that is not generally applicable for the Community sheet. For example the AD&D 2E sheet has the standard STR DEX CON INT WIS CHA. What if I only want to add 1 more field, for say: LUCK, or PERCEPTION? What if I only wanted to change the background color? Can I become a Mentor and make such a minor change for only my own campaign's sheets, or would it need to be "approved" for GitHub and community sheets in order to be use-able in my game?
@Gold That's exactly what the Mentor feature is for. Sorry if we haven't been clear on that. You could go to the Github repo, get the HTML and CSS from there for the Pathfinder sheet, paste them into the HTML/CSS box of the editor for your campaign, and then make whatever changes you want. Those changes would only show up for your specific campaign and they don't have to be approved by anyone.
I updated the Character Sheet wiki page with information on this (under "Advanced Usage") <a href="https://wiki.roll20.net/Character_Sheets" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.roll20.net/Character_Sheets</a>
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Gold
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Riley D. said: @Gold That's exactly what the Mentor feature is for. Sorry if we haven't been clear on that. You could go to the Github repo, get the HTML and CSS from there for the Pathfinder sheet, paste them into the HTML/CSS box of the editor for your campaign, and then make whatever changes you want. Those changes would only show up for your specific campaign and they don't have to be approved by anyone. Riley, that answers it extremely well. That is just what I was wondering. Thanks again. I will probably upgrade to Mentor soon, just to try this.
Is there a place to request a Character Sheet for a game system be implemented? I am planning a Iron Kingdoms Game but there is not IKRPG character sheet in the list and I am not very skilled with creating HTML products.
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Pat S.
Forum Champion
Sheet Author
I second that request about where to request sheets. I use a scarcely used game here and it would be nice to have a sheet. Not a game breaker but something would be nice.
To summarize, put everybody crazy waiting for a Mentor function to become free, tem only release a small portion, making everybody wanna become a Mentor.
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Rodrigo L. said: To summarize, put everybody crazy waiting for a Mentor function to become free, tem only release a small portion, making everybody wanna become a Mentor. That makes it sound as if there was malice or trickery on the part of the guys at Roll20. I don't think that is the case, did I have the assumption that today I would be able to create and alter my own sheets as a non-mentor level subscriber yes, yes I did. The fact that I can't is slightly disappointing but I chalk it up to a misunderstanding nothing intentional. The Roll20 development team are from anything they have ever done or said, good guys that had a great idea for a hobby they love.
John R. said: Rodrigo L. said: To summarize, put everybody crazy waiting for a Mentor function to become free, tem only release a small portion, making everybody wanna become a Mentor. That makes it sound as if there was malice or trickery on the part of the guys at Roll20. I don't think that is the case, did I have the assumption that today I would be able to create and alter my own sheets as a non-mentor level subscriber yes, yes I did. The fact that I can't is slightly disappointing but I chalk it up to a misunderstanding nothing intentional. The Roll20 development team are from anything they have ever done or said, good guys that had a great idea for a hobby they love. Our assumption is that most folks aren't looking to program a sheet-- the drop down menu of community-created sheets for larger games being a big resource for most folks and our focus in discussing the update. We did mention that this would be a Mentor feature (" Note: Creating a custom sheet... " ) and this is in line with where we put our other big programming feature, the API. If you look around the forums today, you'll see a lot of threads talking about errors with the character sheets-- and a lot of those errors are related to oversights by the community creators. I don't in any way mean to knock their efforts (this stuff isn't easy)-- instead simply to point out that an advanced feature like this ends up requiring a lot of our attention. That's always a good indicator for us that it's something we should consider a paid feature-- that our time supporting the item is met with compensation. That's what allows us to keep updating for EVERYBODY... we couldn't pay for faster servers or take the time to research and implement something like QuantumRoll without income. I do see, however, that we could stress this louder upfront to help avoid misunderstanding, and I'll keep that in mind to make clearer down the line.
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Lithl
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Nolan T. J. said: If you look around the forums today, you'll see a lot of threads talking about errors with the character sheets-- and a lot of those errors are related to oversights by the community creators. I don't in any way mean to knock their efforts (this stuff isn't easy)-- instead simply to point out that an advanced feature like this ends up requiring a lot of our attention. So we should have a Character Sheets forum, just like we have an API forum, right? /wink wink nudge nudge Even moreso because it's not just players in Mentor-owned campaigns that would be running into bugs with the new system (or, more commonly, bugs with a given implementation).
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Gold
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I would be pleased to send a few suggestions / improvement requests to the creator-developers of the AD&D 2E character sheet. Not errors and certainly not complaints --- just usability suggestions, minor tweaks that came up as I used the sheet in-game for the first time tonight, actual play. The sheet credits list Dylan G., based on work by Stephen S., but I'm not sure where the appropriate spot to engage them would be. GitHub? Forum? Direct Message? If a "Character Sheets sub-forum" is to be started, I'll wait and make a thread there.
Nolan T. J. said: John R. said: Rodrigo L. said: To summarize, put everybody crazy waiting for a Mentor function to become free, tem only release a small portion, making everybody wanna become a Mentor. That makes it sound as if there was malice or trickery on the part of the guys at Roll20. I don't think that is the case, did I have the assumption that today I would be able to create and alter my own sheets as a non-mentor level subscriber yes, yes I did. The fact that I can't is slightly disappointing but I chalk it up to a misunderstanding nothing intentional. The Roll20 development team are from anything they have ever done or said, good guys that had a great idea for a hobby they love. Our assumption is that most folks aren't looking to program a sheet-- the drop down menu of community-created sheets for larger games being a big resource for most folks and our focus in discussing the update. We did mention that this would be a Mentor feature (" Note: Creating a custom sheet... " ) and this is in line with where we put our other big programming feature, the API. If you look around the forums today, you'll see a lot of threads talking about errors with the character sheets-- and a lot of those errors are related to oversights by the community creators. I don't in any way mean to knock their efforts (this stuff isn't easy)-- instead simply to point out that an advanced feature like this ends up requiring a lot of our attention. That's always a good indicator for us that it's something we should consider a paid feature-- that our time supporting the item is met with compensation. That's what allows us to keep updating for EVERYBODY... we couldn't pay for faster servers or take the time to research and implement something like QuantumRoll without income. I do see, however, that we could stress this louder upfront to help avoid misunderstanding, and I'll keep that in mind to make clearer down the line. Well, Nolan, I kind of over react about it. It was because of the frustation about the anounced feature that seemed to be to everybody. I understand the importance of the Supporter an Mentor program. I'm already a Superter and I'm thinking of becoming a Mentor. Thinking better, I understand it was a misunderstanding like John said. I'm a fan of you all from Roll20. It's a huge platform made for everybody whithout selling anything, but asking for contribution. Sorry about that.