Who Loves Shadowrun?

I belive my question to be plainly stated.

I most certainly do.

This guy!  I'm in the process of converting old school 1st and 2nd edition Shadowrun over to Savage Worlds for my Saturday group.

My friend recently bought me the 4th anniversary and ive been going over them since i'am joining a game of it

As a huge cyberpunk fan I do, though I never really played a game of it, I did delve into some of the material for it.

yeah, SR got me into cyber punk and I read some things by Gibbson and Philip K Dick, as well as Neal Stevenson. Possibly the best writer ever :p In all seriousness though Cyber punk is making a come back. People are yet again wondering what the effects of tech are on the human condition and what really separates us from the machine. I like to rant :D SR5 is suppose to be coming out pretty soon.

William P. said: yeah, SR got me into cyber punk and I read some things by Gibbson and Philip K Dick, as well as Neal Stevenson. Possibly the best writer ever :p In all seriousness though Cyber punk is making a come back. People are yet again wondering what the effects of tech are on the human condition and what really separates us from the machine. I like to rant :D SR5 is suppose to be coming out pretty soon. ahhh i know im excited

Hey its cool to rant about stuff like that :P Cyberpunk is meant to make us wonder about stuff like that. Yep, with the new Shadow run games, Cyberpunk 2077, and even the game Watch_Dogs having a post cyberpunk theme to it, it can be greatly argued that cyberpunk is coming back with a hit. As well as the stuff happening in our own world, I think it is safe to say if any of the fictional futures are true, it will have to be a cyberpunk type world :D Maybe not like Shadowrun, but hey, I would not complain if it did turn out like that lol.

Well we missed the great ghost dance. but frankly the Shadowrun future is horrifying and I hope I never have to see a world like that. As far as whats going on today? we practicaly have com links. Augmented reality is becoming bigger and bigger. I mean just look at google glasses. The tech has been there forever, infact they could put an overlay in contacts. We are living in the future :D

Overall I just like the world. I loved the Neuromancer series cyberpunk books of William Gibson and Shadowrun has a lot of parallels and indeed copied a lot from Neuromancer. I love Shadowrun, but have not been able to play it much. Not many local SR games, or anything not "mainstream". One thing: I much prefer the world and mechanics of Shadowrun 3rd edition. 4th to me is a step in the wrong direction. Anyone else like the old version better? Still, I wish Shadowrun in general had more games going. I like D&D just fine, but wish people would try new things more often in the local shops.

Drake G. said: Overall I just like the world. I loved the Neuromancer series cyberpunk books of William Gibson and Shadowrun has a lot of parallels and indeed copied a lot from Neuromancer. I love Shadowrun, but have not been able to play it much. Not many local SR games, or anything not "mainstream". One thing: I much prefer the world and mechanics of Shadowrun 3rd edition. 4th to me is a step in the wrong direction. Anyone else like the old version better? Still, I wish Shadowrun in general had more games going. I like D&D just fine, but wish people would try new things more often in the local shops. I hear that is what most people said about the 4E and that the older stuff is much better, though I myself don't know much about the differences between editions. I have been reading on some of the 3rd edition and enjoying it. I know how that is when it comes to no one playing it, I never even herd of Shadowrun until I herd about the return months ago and finding what I can online. As much as I enjoy pure fantasy, D&D and all that. I find myself more comfortable in SR and other  cyberpunk settings. Guess its the more darker and grittier nature to it all that you don't find that much in pure fantasy games most of the time.  Plus cyborgs are cool :P

The big issue with Shadowrun, two really: they really messed up the game lore/history, and they dumbed down the mechanics. The game mechanics didn't need to be changed. They aren't that much easier, and in some ways are harder if you want to express more complex things, and they gained us nothing. Its almost like they just randomly changed things to justify a new release, rather than doing the hard work of actually improving upon SR3. To be fair, a lot of games lately seem to be dumbed down in their more recent versions. Its a sad trend to see.  That said, I'd probably play SR4, but really hope to find an SR3 game, or a house-ruled SR4 that fixes the mechanics issues.

I played SR3 first, then played SR4 for several years. It does have mechanical issues and some times you have to hot fix things (i.e. the best rocket man in the world couldn't hit a barn with the way the rocket rules are written.) But as with any system I found that that people i play with are way more important than the rules themselves.