I appreciate the dialog here, but I find your last paragraph a bit disingenuous. You have a script that does all that, but it's also impossible at the same time? Huh? If I want to set up a basic melee attack on a generic character, why must I set it up twice? Why isn't there just a button or toggle or something to make that action a token action? I know that is not your fault, I am just typing out loud here. Also, I have copied some of the macros in the forums here, and have found some problems. NPCs are not the same as PCs and sometimes it's ability bonus and sometimes includes proficiency and sometimes not. And it was not at all clear to me, the casual, yet trying, end user that such was the case with the macros somebody posted (and many others vouched for). Again, why can't THEY (not you or me) just build this stuff into a basic package? To hit rolls and saving throws and ability checks are not exactly rare in game. Seems to me that Roll20 is using generous people like you, Keith, to patch up their mess behind them. At least that's the way it looks from here. I see the badges by your name, and I have been in what I imagine your shoes are like in other gaming situations, wrt to money and links to the company that owns the IP. Maybe I am way off base, but that's the subtext I am reading. Look at it from where I am sitting... why in the world would I want to buy a module when the basic game is so screwed up? Why would I buy a module if I, based on experience, was worried that I could not easily add a few mooks here and there, or insert my favorite recurring NPC villain, the one that I enter all my homebrew stats for? Oh, sure, I can add them, but everything has to be done manually. Twice, and using a macro language that is, um, interesting. Atm I am running new players through Against the Giants, the 4e Perkins version, b/c I like it better and b/c I ran one of my players through the Gygax original back in the, ahem, late 70s. And b/c they WILL read the module, but probably not know about anything but the 5e conversion in the Tales from the .... whatever book. I paid Schley for his maps even though they frustrate me b/c of the way they don't perfectly line up with the rigid grid on vtts. I did that b/c they are beautiful and functional enough, and his IP. I can even make work the change in giant size between 4e and 5e on those maps. I would like to pay somebody for a vtt that handles basic DM prep and combat chores without making me feel like I gotta go back to the days of echoing print commands to the screen. Again, thx, Keith. I wish you the best and appreciate the help here. I am positive my frustration is not directed towards you. Those last few paragraphs were for anybody else reading along here, but I despair.