Si said: Yes, I understand how to make them visible and flip them etc. it's just when I change pages they seem to stay on the preceding page. i have a great api script that tracks the destiny pool in the chat window. It works it's just not as visual as I initially wanted. Thanks anyway. What I'm trying to say is that you can have the cards visible in your hand and the players can check your hand for reference. If that's not visible enough for you, you could have an API script that copies the cards from page to page as you move around.