Daniel B. said: Having played the original D&D when it came out, I would have to say, you don't have a freaking clue... it was and is inferior to AD&D. Of course, there is always some moron that will call others munchkins or min-maxers for not agreeing with them, but that ain't me. Anything before 4th edition is fine with me if you want a pick up game. After 4th ed., I think WotC just proved they don't know gaming. And i think that's just about enough from the 3.finder snobs. I'm going to bed, sorry David.