In the global save modifier I can get any positive mod working fine, but the syntax for adding a negative mod eludes me, ie like Bane which is the reverse of bless, if I type -1d4[Bane] it always returns -1 and doesn't roll a d4, I have tried other methods but all have returned errors. Ok, have tried 0-1d4[Bane], this does give a neg result, but you end up with 8 + - 3 in the chat log, that will do me, unless there is some way of removing the + Btw I am using sheet rolls, rather than using macros to build the roll.