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[AD&D 2E Revised] Help me design the repeating spells section!

1598424848
Peter B.
Pro
Sheet Author
Hello Roll20 I am working on a rework of the repeating spells section for the AD&D 2E Revised (Red) sheet. My goal is to add more fields so that more properties of each spell can be recorded. After that I am planning to make a dropdown of spells so that when a player picks a spell from the dropdown all the fields will be auto filled. I have the following two design proposals: One good thing about the Current design is that the start of each spell is clearly visible by the large Spell Name  field. Two column design: Pros Cons Larger fields, allowing for better readability, particularily Range and Area of Effect is easy to read Each spell takes up a lot of space Loses the feeling of a "start of new spell" by not having a large 'Spell name' field Cast time is "hard to find" due to no header Three column design Pros Cons Takes up a little less space than two column design Better keeps the feeling of a new section by having a larger 'Spell name' field Cast time is easier to find as it has a header Still takes up a lot of spaced A little less readable due to smaller size fields A common problem with both of these designs is the exclusion of headers / titles for each field. Once the field is filled out, and the placeholder text is removed, it can be hard to tell what data goes into what field. See example here where the fields have been filled out: I am not that great at designing, and I feel limited by the layout of previous developers to keep 3 primary columns of spells, as removing a single columns would result in players losing data. Reducing the primary spell columns to 1, would allow be doable as the three current columns could be stacked on top of each other for more room for headers. This would however move spells around, which might not be desireable but it is a small annoyance. To be honest I am open for all suggestions! Any combination of primary spell columns, and columns for the spell attribute fields is welcome! I hope someone can crack the code on this and come up with a really good design that clearly lets the player see their needed information for a spell, while not taking up too much space.
1598426330
GiGs
Pro
Sheet Author
API Scripter
You can completely reorganise the layout and keep the data. As long as you keep the attribute names within the repeating section, the data will not be lost. i dont know what the rest of the sheet looks like, but I'd personally prefer switching from vertical to horizontal, and have some of the data in a div that can be hidden or displayed using CSS.  Chances are you dont have room for that kind of change though.
1598428540
Peter B.
Pro
Sheet Author
GiGs said: You can completely reorganise the layout and keep the data. As long as you keep the attribute names within the repeating section, the data will not be lost. i dont know what the rest of the sheet looks like, but I'd personally prefer switching from vertical to horizontal, and have some of the data in a div that can be hidden or displayed using CSS.  Chances are you dont have room for that kind of change though. This is a very good idea to reorganize into a horizontal version. I had thought about it, but dismissed it as my initial thought was to simply remove 2 of the columns. I can instead just place the two columns under the new layout so there is three horizontal layouts. It will look kind of redundant, but it will keep data! I also thought about making part of it hidden with a checkbox, but could not figure out where to place the checkbox in the current design. I will make a new proposal based on a horizontal design, and see how it turns out :)
1598483024
Gold
Forum Champion
2E Tavern folks, taking a look... Thanks for your hard work on this & consideration of people's input, game rules, Roll20 tech, and everything. No specific feedback from me at this moment, just directing some players I know who use the Red 2nd edition character sheet more thoroughly than I. Here come the wizards & Specialist Mages