Gauss said: Gold said: on Game Details pages Players list is now ordered somewhat Alphabetical.. It's lost the ranking of earliest-players to Join the game. I would like to see an Announcement and documentation from Roll20 or even Changelog covering that. Confirmed that I am also seeing that change. Although I think it might predate today's banner change. Regarding the "somewhat Alphabetical" in one of my games it seems to be alphabetical starting with Caps, then moving to lowercase names. So if you have George, jim, John, and Marty it will be: George John Marty jim Is that what you are seeing? I have at least 1 example of the Alphabetical doing something different: Echo, Guardtroll, Lokkur, Paul, Elise. As you can see "Elise" is not lowercase, and is not properly alphabetized. Screenshot available if needed. However I don't care about that, because Alphabetizing the names here is useless to me. Anyone can re-order a list of names in to Alphabet. There is no game-related functionality to alphabetizing (but there is for Join Date sorting). What was lost was the Seniority rankings. That's the issue that is materially affecting games. That's the loss of parity to what we had before, and the loss of a functionality that existed before. I have games with Players who joined 5-10 years ago, and they were always at the Top. Now they are de-moted on the Players list, that's the main effect of the change, to me. I have Players who joined this week, and now they are melded-in and cannot be easily re-identified as the new joiners. I reported it to Help Center and the answer was dissatisfying. AllHansOnDeck said: That was from a release on January 13, 2026 , which supported search and pagination for the Players section. I've passed on the feedback to the team responsible for that work. Thanks very much. I asked Help Center for the changelog to that and they were unable to provide it. My ticket has been open for 10 days. It is Help Center Ticket #392538. I appreciate you providing that Changelog link. I respect that the changelog gives the reason ("improves loading into West Marches /large community style games") and I have that type of game with 200+ players. And, the Pagination feature is good. Thank you again. The problem with this is: the Players list in the West Marches / large community game, has lost the Seniority ranking, in other words listing by Join Date, which was the Game Details Page expected behavior from 2012-2026 on Roll20. That is an issue for large games like that that have been using the earliest-join feature for many years on here. The earliest-join feature (Players at the top) also provided the Newest Members feature (players at the bottom of the list). In the new Game Details page format this is impossible for the GM to determine, who are the new members? Who are the original members? Can we get a Toggle for GM/users to choose the sort-order? That is something that deserves at-least an Announcement on Roll20 forums to explain and discuss. My group's GM's particularly would like to read an Announcement or Blog to tell about the change, at the very least. Do good communication to the users. Explain what the change does and why it was made. Tell us if we have the power to request modifications, like would you be able to program a toggle for us to choose the sort-order in the future? Old Game Details which listed Players by order of Join Date from 2012-2026: New Game Details adds Search and Alphabetical but sadly lost the Order of Join Date in January 2026:
