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Any way to have multiple graphics per character?

December 20 (10 years ago)
Ed S.
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Marketplace Creator
I'd like to have multiple images associated with a character, one for the token, one for a portrait, and another of the character's warhorse. Is there any way to do this?
December 21 (10 years ago)

Edited December 21 (10 years ago)
DXWarlock
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API Scripter
If you mean separate tokens, you can either make a sheet for both, and give him control of it. or just assign a token to controled by him if you don't need a whole sheet just for the horse.
If you mean one token that can change what it is, use a rollabletable, set it up with all the tokens, and hit "token" button and assign it to his sheet.
December 21 (10 years ago)
https://wiki.roll20.net/Card_Decks_and_Rollable_Tables
December 21 (10 years ago)
Ed S.
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Marketplace Creator
Let me try a different way of putting it. The case I gave was just one example. I have several characters who have multiple graphics they want to associate with their character. In two cases, they have a character portrait that they like for their character as a representation of what they look like, and they want to have that portrait on their character's journal entry, but they want to use a different graphic on their token. Also, in several cases, there are other graphics pertaining to their character that they want to have on hand, the warhorse being just one example. In general, these are things that don't associate with a token. For example, one guy came up with a drawing of his character's fortress. From what I can tell the only way to associate any graphic with a character is the avatar pic and that pic always appears on the token. Am I missing something?
December 21 (10 years ago)

Edited December 21 (10 years ago)
Pat S.
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Sheet Author
Avatar and token are two different graphics that are stored on the character sheet journal.

The token can be made with the rollable table like Honeybadger indicated. The avatar is just a single image that is displayed on the sheet and in the chat area. The easiest way to do the multiple images is to make the rollable table token. This will allow you to have the main gaming token and then the player can switch to the other images when he wants to with that token, be it his warhorse, his castle, whatever.

December 21 (10 years ago)
Ed S.
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Marketplace Creator
Sorry I'm slow on figuring out what you're describing. Are you talking about using the rollable table to create the token that will be used to represent the character?
I created a table with multiple entries and put a graphic on each one, then created a token from the table. I can see how to change the graphic for the token, but it doesn't seem like this is getting me where I want to go. After creating the table token, even if I go to the character journal entry and set that to be the default token, it doesn't seem to actually be bound to the character. When selecting the table token, I don't get the options to assign stats, etc.
December 21 (10 years ago)

Edited December 21 (10 years ago)
Gauss
Forum Champion
Ed S., here is how you can set up multiple images as a token:

1) Create a Rollable Table and add multiple images.
2) Turn it into a Rollable Token.
3) Right click on the Rollable Token and deselect the 'Is Drawing' option.
4) Edit the token as you would any other token (link to the character sheet and bars as desired, set player controls, etc.).
5) Open the character sheet and set the token as the default token.

The player can right click on the token and change the image (on the map, not in the character sheet).
December 21 (10 years ago)
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Forum Champion

Ed S. said:

Let me try a different way of putting it. The case I gave was just one example. I have several characters who have multiple graphics they want to associate with their character. In two cases, they have a character portrait that they like for their character as a representation of what they look like, and they want to have that portrait on their character's journal entry, but they want to use a different graphic on their token. Also, in several cases, there are other graphics pertaining to their character that they want to have on hand, the warhorse being just one example. In general, these are things that don't associate with a token. For example, one guy came up with a drawing of his character's fortress. From what I can tell the only way to associate any graphic with a character is the avatar pic and that pic always appears on the token. Am I missing something?

Just one question, if I'm understanding you -- is there a reason why you want to "associate the castle token and the warhorse token" with the Paladin's character sheet? Such as you want to have the Castle display the same Hit Points as the Paladin?

Because my understanding of your question, I don't think you want the Rollable Table where the Paladin's Token can appear as a castle, or he can switch it to Warhorse, or he can switch it to Face Portrait.

I think that it sounds more like you simply want the player to control multiple tokens, which is easy, so the answer is yes. You'd have the 1 Player, 1 Character with their token (the portrait) associated to character sheet with their stats, and that Player can also control additional tokens (Castle, Warhorse) which don't need to be associated with the character stats, just needs to be owned & controlled by that player. If you are happy with giving the Player control of moving the castle & warhorse token, but not needing to associate the token with the Paladin character sheet for purposes of stats, then simply have the GM put the Castle token on the tabletop and assign control of it to the Player.

Associate the many tokens to the Player not the Character, is basically my suggestion.

Bonus points: You can give several players control of the Castle, or the Warhorse, they can share it, if there's a reason to.

Wiki page for this, look under the subheading "4. Controlled By":
https://wiki.roll20.net/Token_Features

December 21 (10 years ago)
Ed S.
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Marketplace Creator
I'm not looking to use multiple tokens.
The basic starting point was the player saying "I want my token to look like X, but I want my character avatar portrait to look like Y. My thought was that the token would always look like the avatar and so I needed some other way to store the portrait as a separate graphic on the character. This then led to questions about storing other graphics on the character sheet, such as the warhorse and the castle. There was never an intention for the portrait, or the warhorse or the castle to ever appear on the playing surface as a token or otherwise. The desire was simply to store them on the character sheet for reference. So have my token look like X, my avatar/portrait like Y, my warhorse like Z and my castle like W and have them all stored on my character sheet and of those, only the token graphic will ever be seen on the play surface.
Gauss's reply at least gets me part of the way there. By setting the table token as a drawing, I was able to create a token associated with a character that looked like something other than the avatar, If I can get the other pics stored on the character sheet, that would be bonus.
Thanks for the help :)
December 21 (10 years ago)

Edited December 21 (10 years ago)
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Ed S. said:

The basic starting point was the player saying "I want my token to look like X, but I want my character avatar portrait to look like Y. My thought was that the token would always look like the avatar and so I needed some other way to store the portrait as a separate graphic on the character. This then led to questions about storing other graphics on the character sheet, such as the warhorse and the castle.

This first feature already exists and has always been so on here. You can put 1 picture on the character bio page for their portrait. You can put down another token --- any token --- and say it represents that character.

You do not need to drag the character's portrait onto the tabletop and make the portrait as the token. You can simply drag any token (from the Art tab, and only the GM can do this) onto the tabletop and set it to be that character, even while that character has a different picture for their portrait on their Bio tab.

I think that your next question is, "How do I place multiple graphics on the character sheet"? If I am understanding your latest reply, that is what you are asking. The best answer for that is to go into a graphics program (GIMP is a free one) and make a collage, a single JPG that contains the different images you want, perhaps with borders between them if you want. Upload that one graphic and place it on the character sheet.

You've said you never want the Castle to be a moveable token on the tabletop. So you don't need to make it as a rollable table, in my understanding of your request. You've said you want the Castle to appear on the character sheet, along with the face picture, and the warhorse picture. The best way to do this is to combine them into a single picture containing Face, Castle, Warhorse, like a page of a magazine layout, and upload that single picture.

The bio tab, portrait slot, does not accommodate multiple graphics, just one slot there.

The other option, if you don't want to make a single graphic, is to put the Castle in a Handout, and give them permission to that handout. Put the warhorse in another handout (or another character, the Warhorse character) and give permissions for it to the player(s) who should be able to view it.
December 22 (10 years ago)
Ed S.
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Marketplace Creator
Good suggestions all around. Before this discussion, I didn't realize I could have a character token by any means other than dragging form the journal. The other mechanisms mentioned here will be very helpful. It sounds like the collage idea will be the only route to get the multiple images on the sheet. If they don't want to go that route, I'll make a handout for them. I think we can consider this resolved :)
Thanks again.
December 22 (10 years ago)
Gold
Forum Champion
I believe there is a Suggestion somewhere on the Suggestions forum, asking for the ability to put more than 1 image in a Handout (which would also conceivably all the same on a Bio tab of a character). If you see the thread, add your comments and your +1 vote if you like.

If I run across that thread, I'll come back and share a link.
December 22 (10 years ago)
vÍnce
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Sheet Author
You can use this trick to add additional images, thanks Honey Badger
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/1424954/pasting-jpegs-in-gm-notes#post-1426150

HoneyBadger said:
Actually you can paste images into tokens. It just has to be copied from a browser window first and be available via the internet. So you can't open a file locally, but if it is on a webpage, you can right click on the image, copy image, and then hit ctrl + v inside the GM Notes on the token. You can add multiple images to any text box in tokens, character sheets, and handouts that way.
I use this method.
December 22 (10 years ago)
Gen Kitty
Forum Champion
But aren't the GM notes only visible to the GMs?
December 22 (10 years ago)

Edited December 22 (10 years ago)
Gold
Forum Champion

GenKitty said:

But aren't the GM notes only visible to the GMs?

Correct, but if you parse the idea, HB actually tells that you can copy-paste, using that method, "into any text box" and says that you can do it on character sheets or handouts. Sounds like he's saying it can be done outside of GM Notes.

I think it's an idea worth experimenting to see how it works.

The character portrait slot is actually not a text box, it's a graphic upload box that accepts 1 graphic, so not right there. But it's on the Bio & Info tab, and the rest of that tab is a couple text boxes, one for Player and one for GM Notes.
December 22 (10 years ago)

Edited December 22 (10 years ago)
vÍnce
Pro
Sheet Author
And, it has the added benefit that the image can be hyperlinked. Not sure if you insert a handout anchor, but url's work.
Another solution, although it doesn't paste the image directly onto the character sheet, is to create handouts for each image you want, place a link on the character sheet bio & info tab, and then archive the handout. Whenever you need to see the image, just click on the link. I've copied someone else's idea of making an "Adventurer's Handbook" for each of my players using linked handouts of people they've met, places they've been, monsters they've encountered, etc. The downside is that you actually open up another window when you click on the link, however, you have the option of minimizing that window, if you just want to keep that image available.
December 26 (10 years ago)

Edited December 26 (10 years ago)
Ed S.
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Marketplace Creator
Just tried the copy and paste image into the Bio & Info text box and it worked. That's awesome :)
Well done, HoneyBadger!