Mark G. said: but even before 5e it was never as hugely popular as say... Pathfinder Don't drink the kool-aid. ;) 4e, initially, had a higher percentage of players and better sales records than Pathfinder, and did for the longest time, until around the era where WotC killed off PDF production, due to 'rampant piracy'. Mishandling of 4e helped improve the sales and player pool of PF, rather than the quality of the game. Regardless, I'm currently working on a 4e campaign. So, there are people who play it here. Don't know when it'll be up, or if I open it publicly. My usual group gets first pick on whether they want to play before I hunt out new players.