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Thank you very much for the help guys! I know I'm being an handful today, I hope I'm almost there :D <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835186" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835186</a>

<a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835098" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835098</a> Here's the character sheet a second time. Haven't bought an adventurer's kit yet, but most of it should be there :)

Coyote: 1) Your array matches up, however I would really strongly recommend sticking to the advice given in the New Player's Checklist of putting your primary stat as your highest score. &nbsp;Every spell you have is based off of Constitution and yet Con is not your highest stat. &nbsp;This isn't wrong, but is something that is likely to cause you problems. 2)Your feats. READ. THE. CHECKLIST. &nbsp;Or pay attention to others who have noted what was wrong. &nbsp;For example Kamil said exactly what the problem was initially on this thread and it is the very first part of the feats section on the new player checklist. &nbsp;If you cannot read you cannot play. 3) I still don't see what the note +2 AC on first attack is supposed to mean, please explain. 4) Shadow walk does not give you 'stealth' for moving more than 3 squares. 5) Defenses. &nbsp;For example your AC should be the following: Base(10) + Armor Enhancement + Leather Armor + Int/Dex mod + Half Level When I add those things up I don't get to 20. &nbsp;Add your things up and tell me what you get (ie. &nbsp;break it down for me). &nbsp;Your Non-armor defenses (NADs) should be done in a similar way. Base + Neck Enhancement + Appropriate Modifier+ Class Bonus (if applicable). 6) If you need further help please ask on skype. Rick S Looks good. &nbsp;I would appreciate it, for completeness, if you would denote on your character sheet that you got some of those items at a discounted price from the sale thread. &nbsp;Some people just put [Name] of the person they bought it from, or [Sale Thread]. &nbsp;Either works. &nbsp;I'll toss you a journal entry so you can get started on macros.

A crystalline creature enters the hall, all eyes go to... him? It surveys the area and appears.. pleased, almost ecstatic at what it sees. Bausnyte may have found his home. (Torinn mulligan) Bausnyte <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=796430" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=796430</a>

TC: Put your items under the "magic items" section. &nbsp;All of them not just randomly some of them. &nbsp;Other than that, use the journal entry for Torinn to make your new character and then let us know when the macros are ready to be checked so that we can get you a new token.

Figured I would post this to get help/advice. Still have details to fill in and backstory and all that jazz, but want to make sure I have started on the correct path. One thing which has confused me and so I stopped, was the feats, do we gain racial and class feats, or are they just part of the pool that we can pick from? Let me know where I am going wrong. As a complete noob to D&D I have been trying to read up on it but I believe that I am at the point where I read it but my mind does not retain it, going to are some time to remember everything I'm reading haha. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835600" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835600</a>

@Denis. &nbsp;It will really behoove you to go through the checklist and read all the entries. Once you get a little further along I can give some feedback. (Class/race/stats give you access to feats. &nbsp;You don't get some racial feats and some class feats. &nbsp;You get feats that can be either racial, class, generic, etc)

Thanks Gary. I have been using the check list as well as reading all other threads that are listed as should be. I feel I have it, but perhaps I am wrong. Been working on the sheet on and off from my iPad at work. I think I have all the numbers worked out correctly and believe I have the feats sorted now. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835600" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=835600</a>

Denis there are a lot of things to work on there. &nbsp;You are missing a feat (your class feature doesnt take up a feat). &nbsp;You also should buy equipment (part of the checklist). Also a lot of your buttons are pretty badly off from filling in odd numbers in certain areas (like the +19 AC and speed 30 instead of speed 5). Join the skype group when you can for some more advice.

Off work now, and joining the Skype group so I can get this sorted out :)

Have to go to bed now, pretty sure I've gotten all the important stuff though. Thanks for all your help guys. :) <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837209" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837209</a>

Denis: Still have some stuff to fix. &nbsp;Let me know when you have it updated on your next try. Archibald: A good start. 1)&nbsp;&nbsp;Your feats confuse me in general. &nbsp;Bonuses of the same type do not stack (so you will not get the benefit of some or most of those). &nbsp;Battle Song Expertise or White Lotus Dueling Expertise&nbsp; 2) Your defenses need to be properly calculated 3) Your stats do look like they are off. &nbsp;Please include your starting Array, stat bump choices for race and your choices for Level 4 on the sheet. 4) Having 3 implements seems like a really odd choice. &nbsp;Not sure why you are doing it, but you can use all three of those. 5) Hit points are slightly off as well.

I believe this &nbsp;is &nbsp;correct, it's my first try. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837789" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837789</a> Let me know if I need to fix anything.

@Milo. &nbsp;Looks good at a glance. &nbsp;If you can annoy one of the DMs in guild chat on skype to look at it and give you a journal entry. &nbsp;Too tired to check your hp/defenses but everything else checks.

Gary: I'll do my best to attend to that over the next day or 2, had no idea about the expertise feats. I'm not sure that was mentioned anywhere I read about them.

"Bonuses: There’s one important rule for bonuses: Don’t&nbsp;add together bonuses of the same type to the same roll or&nbsp;score. If you have two bonuses of the same type that apply&nbsp;to the same roll or score, use the higher bonus." PHB275. Don't worry about not getting everything on the first try, that is what we are here to help with. &nbsp;Its not a specific rule for expertise, but a general rule for all bonuses of all kinds.

Ok first Draft so let me know if anything is wrong (there is bound to be) <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=836691" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=836691</a>&nbsp;

Gary: I've revised my character sheet, as far as I can tell all of your concerns have been addressed. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837209" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837209</a>

Alt character: Battlemind <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=839637" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=839637</a>

James F. Hit points are off. &nbsp;Your hp is Con SCORE + 12 + 5per level I like your notations on your feats, however I would say you should get Light Blade Expertise over Weapon Expertise. &nbsp;Its just better in every way. Rogues do not natively have proficiency in Rapier and Expertise does not give your proficiency. &nbsp;I don't see a way listed for you to be able to use a rapier (it takes either a feat or a mechanical background. &nbsp;If you have the mechanical background Gritty Sergeant I just dont see it on the sheet Everything else looks good. &nbsp;Fix those couple things and repost and I'll get you started on journal entry. Archibald Defenses seem pretty off. AC = Base + Int + Armor + Enhancement + Half Level which doesn't look like it matches 21 AC. &nbsp;Break down your defenses so I an see. Non-armor = Base + Stat + Enhancement + Half Level + Feat + Race + Class. &nbsp;At minimum your Will is incorrect. &nbsp;Break down your NADs so I can see where you missed/included things you should not have included. &nbsp;My guess is that it has something to do with the fact that you have a 1 shield bonus labelled on your sheet with no shield. You are missing your level 4 stat bump. &nbsp;Please address that.

Kyle: Looks good. &nbsp;Please remember that melee training halves the damage bonus from the new stat. &nbsp;That is a common thing that is missed by people who take it. &nbsp;It isn't just "Con to attack and damage instead of strength". &nbsp;I'll toss you a journal entry so you can get started on your macros.

1. Ah-ha I thought it was just the Con bonus *facepalm* corrected now. 2. As it makes sense to do this its been changed (Thanks very much) 3. Added the background to get to prof. Hopefully this is better <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=836691" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=836691</a>

Tossing you a journal entry James.

Hopefully third time's the charm, got everything sorted out as near as I can see <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837209" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837209</a>

Doug Minor Note: Distant Advantage not Distance Shimmering Armor is cloth only. &nbsp;You want Shadowdance Armor Hunter is an Essentials Class so you do not get normal dailies/encounter powers. &nbsp;You only get what is listed in the hunter entry (although you can pick normal ranger utilities at the levels you get utilities). &nbsp;You need to remove your daily and encounter powers that are Ranger powers. &nbsp;All in all this means you get 2 aspects, 1 Utility 2 and Reactive Shift. Let me know when you want another look.

@Archibald. &nbsp;Looks good, I'll toss a journal entry your way so you can get to macros

Hello, everyone. Here's my character sheet:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837691" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837691</a> I built it in the offline CB first, then copied over the info into mythweavers. Let me know if I have to change anything.

Looks good Rafael. &nbsp;I tossed you a journal entry in game so you can start working on macros.

Hi, This is my character sheet. Let's hope I didn't miss anything. :P <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=838423" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=838423</a>

<a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835</a> Hoping this is mostly correct. I'm still new. So i think some of the attack info, as well as powers could use a once-over from someone savvy with it. ? I tried to be as detailed as possible about mechanics, and where bonuses are coming from.&nbsp;

Steve C: Good first try. I can't get your stats from my array. &nbsp;My guess is that you gave yourself +2 Dex at level 4. &nbsp;You have to give your +1 to 2 different stats, only that also doesn't match up with your Charisma. &nbsp;I think it would be ok if you just lowered your final dex down to 17 as that makes the stats line up. You did not put an enhancement bonus on your neck (I assume it is +1) Your AC and Reflex are not correct however that is due to you having 1 too much Dexterity. &nbsp;When your dex goes to 17 it should properly display. Your Stealth should be 12. &nbsp;Bonuses of the same name do not stack. &nbsp;Thus if you have a +1 item bonus to stealth, a +1 item bonus to stealth and a +2 item bonus to stealth you have a total of +2. Your Surges per day should be 4 (2 from class + 2 from durable) Your hit points are wrong. &nbsp;Remember it is Con SCORE (not mod) + Base for your class + Class per level * 4 (Since you have gained 4 levels from level 1). Your init is also wrong, that is again due to dex. Attack bonus is slightly off (again, Dex) True Neutral is not an alignment in 4e I got different numbers from you on how much gold you have spent vs what you bought. &nbsp;If you can take a moment to start from 4500gp and then subtract all the stuff you bought down in the money section. &nbsp;Might make things easier.

Richard You listed your bonuses from race but didn't actually put them into your stats nor did you put your bonuses from level 4 into your stats. &nbsp;YOu should do that. Your hit points are wrong. Remember it is Con SCORE (not mod) + Base for your class + Class per level * 4 (Since you have gained 4 levels from level 1). There are a list of implement expertise feats on the forums. &nbsp;You need to pick one. &nbsp;You can also look them up in the compendium. &nbsp;Things like Staff Expertise and Orb Expertise. Your expertise feat is free, so you have another feat to pick (after you get a real expertise feat) Your defenses need work, but first the stats need to be fixed before we can go forward.

Second attempt. Thanks again! <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835</a>

made a few changes to my starting stats:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837789" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=837789</a> got my macros made in game and am ready for bens game tomorrow unless I messed something up

Richard:&nbsp; Stats are still wrong. &nbsp;I think you took one away from wis instead of adding one to wis (Starting wis 12, Wis+1 @4) Expertise still wrong. &nbsp;Look at the list Your defenses are wrong. &nbsp;Break down your defenses for me please.

Milo: I don't know if you aren't in Skype chat for some reason, or maybe I just don't know what your skype handle is, but there is some miscommunication happening here. Edit: Macro fixes needed If you can please have it select which rune state you enter and only display that one it will drastically cut down on the amount of crazy size of all of your powers. &nbsp;Since you are using the much-maligned power cards and using massive powers that is something you should work on. The macro for Shield of Sacrifice doesn't function Rune of Endless fire having a break in it makes it looks like the blind is not bound to the hit. &nbsp;Fixing it will also lessen the size of the macro Several of your powers do "Slashing" or "Piercing" damage. &nbsp;That isn't a thing in this edition. Mark of Healing only effects Allies. &nbsp;Keep that in mind for your heals. &nbsp;Also I think you have Mark of Healing effecting your Second Wind and it does not. You should either fold critical hits into your macro, or have another macro for when you critically hit.

Gary M said: Richard:&nbsp; Stats are still wrong. &nbsp;I think you took one away from wis instead of adding one to wis (Starting wis 12, Wis+1 @4) Expertise still wrong. &nbsp;Look at the list Your defenses are wrong. &nbsp;Break down your defenses for me please. Don't know how WIS got messed up. so was 12 starting. +1 &nbsp;for level 4 upgrade. Should be fixed.&nbsp; Feats. hmm okay. should be fixed now. There are some feats that have near same names/descriptions. you'll have to forgive me if i get a few mixed up.&nbsp; Also, I was waiting on defense, going off of your reply earlier to fix stats before moving forward. I assumed that was ability scores and such.&nbsp; I'm going off of what I can find online. So here goes.&nbsp; 10 + 4 INT modifier + 2 (half of character level, i'm rounding down, assuming that is correct, the sheet is doing the same).+ Unarmored Agility feat, +2. Does 18 AC sound correct?&nbsp; I will attempt to research attack and damage, but i can't even find formulas online or in the PHB. so I may need help with that.&nbsp; Current Sheet:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835</a>

I have fixed the parts you mentioned, Gary. The rundown on gold spent is in Coins and Other Wealth. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=838423" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=838423</a> Is it ok for me to post in the guild census now?

@Hadraniel. You could look up slightly in this thread for a breakdown of defenses. &nbsp;They are also in the PHB in detail (Same with attack descriptions and breakdowns). &nbsp;Yes rounding down is always the right answer. AC = Base + Int/Dex + Armor + Enhancement + Half Level+ Feat Non Armor Defense = Base + Stat + Enhancement + Half Level + Feat + Race + Class.&nbsp; I also probably wouldn't take 2 expertise powers, but you are welcome to do so. @Steve Looks good, I'll toss a journal entry your way.

Levoren would like to join the guild.

First version of my sheet:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842146" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842146</a>

Changed to a barbarian, here is my sheet, let me know where I have messed up :D <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842300" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842300</a>

Denis&nbsp; Your healing surges are too low (hint: Vitality) Is Darkleaf Armor +1 your armor? If yes then it should be in "Magic items and equipment". Also&nbsp;is it hide? if yes then it only has a skill check penalty not speed penalty. Your stats are way off. You might want to read step 4 of our guide:&nbsp; <a href="https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/2658092/new-play" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/2658092/new-play</a>... (reading other steps is also strongly advised :P )

Thanks Kamil. Still trying to get my head around all this. I think I correctly made the changes. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842300" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842300</a>

Denis - Your stats are still off. Did you remember to add racial and lvl 4 bonuses? You should also write down which stat array you used. - Either you're not including your racial feature (Vitality) or you've miscalculated your number of healing surges, check them again. And I advise joining our skype group if you need help: <a href="https://join.skype.com/z4djxGhYPKtY" rel="nofollow">https://join.skype.com/z4djxGhYPKtY</a> PS. Your AC is off, make sure you're including all things.

Okay I believe we got it all sorted out. <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842300" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842300</a>

Recheck please.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=840835</a> Feats adjusted. AC is good as far as i can tell. I have no bonuses that currently add to attack/damage (other than the half level attack bonus.) So, those are low/empty for that reason. If something else is supposed to go there, i need someone to tell me. because i'm otherwise clueless on what needs to be done. &nbsp;Thanks!&nbsp; Hoping this is it, so i can move on to macro's and eventually get playing in a few days.&nbsp;

Fixed some stuff, bought some new items and added some info in the conditional mods:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842146" rel="nofollow">http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=842146</a>

Hadraniel - Your defenses are off, make sure you're including all the bonuses. - Is there a reason you have three 1st lvl at-wills? PS. Gary asked you to breakdown your defenses and write them for him like this: "AC = Base + Int/Dex + Armor + Enhancement + Half Level+ Feat Non Armor Defense = Base + Stat + Enhancement + Half Level + Feat + Race + Class"