the problem is: I've talked to them, and I am unsure who did it(it's happened several times in past) and since I have a large player base, it's not like I can single people out, and penalizing whole group, isn't working(everyone accepts the penalty, but it keeps happening) Thank you, I really am getting annoyed since it keeps happening, and I want to heavily penalize the offender, if not outright kick them. And... it offers little help...