Sure, I know it's the bane of troubleshooters to hear "it worked before" and nothing on my end changed :). But it did work, 2(maybe 3) weeks ago these exact tokens with no changes to them and was showing my cntl-l view correctly. Here is KH-A10s settings: And the torches: I suspect it has something to do with something changed internally? As the player view looks correct. If I set a token to me as player and GM cntl-l its wrong, but I relogin as non-GM player the view I get as player is correct. So something is off, the GMs view and players view don't reflect each other. If it was a token setting it would be off when I'm in as a player also I'd think (IE they would be both wrong, but in the same way).