Hi Brian, The game of Mutant Year Zero that two others and myself are trying to start may fit what you are looking for. It's pretty far from D&D in setting, system and tone. You play mutants trying to survive in a hostile post apocalyptic world. Not only survive yourself, but help your settlement survive and even thrive. We are all new to the system, so none of know things well enough to be a rules lawyer. As for min/maxing the game doesn't lend itself to that. The setting also makes being murder hobos difficult. Due to the spread of time zones we were looking at 2-5pm on weekends about every other week. We'll decide which weekend day works best for the next session as we go along. Thanks for your time in reading this. If the game sounds interesting, drop me a PM and we can talk details. Regards, Rudedd
