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[CWOD V20 & DAV20] Sheet Changes Coming. Back Up Sheets

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Rin Vindor
Pro
Sheet Author
Hey folks I am providing a quality of life update to the V20 & DA V20 sheets. I'm posting on here and providing a notice on Twitter to get as many folks aware ahead of time. I'll be doing the pull request a week after this post goes live (which means it'll be December 1st) that'll give a little more than a week for players and STs to backup. Below I am going to detail the changes and updates. I advise backing up everything especially those of you using CWOD DA V20 as the whole sheet is being replaced. Here is a list of updates. The updates pertain to CWOD V20 but DAV20 will be getting completely overhauled. These were requests from the community from my previous update and the Dark Ages sheet was especially a heavy request that it get the same treatment (to the point people have been paying for my Roll20 Pro to get it finished as I'm a bit tight on cash myself atm). Anyway enough rambling here are the updates. This update covers a number of requested features from users as well as bug fixes. Updates: - We shrunk the dot size of everything to better fit them on the sheets and make it look much cleaner. - Rmoved the excess Other category and Merits and Flaws at the bottom left of the Primary tab and replaced this with a section for the Sins for the character's Path/Road. These sections already have their own spots so there was no sense in having a second spot for them. NOTE: This means back up these 3 sections to another spot before the update goes live.  - A box now surrounds the Virtues that can be clicked on so new players and sheet users know now that it can be changed instead of stumbling upon this features - We added a number of Extra Bruised Health Levels. From 3 to 12 in fact. This is obviously for creatures the ST may need to throw at bad players ;) but it can also be useful for house rules or homebrew. - The Other Traits tab has been expaneded. Now it includes Secondary Abilities that many STs are still very fond of using (and appear in Mage20), this is of course in addition to the 15 Other Traits for those who need it all. - Slightly tweaked Experience Tab now instead of a checkbox to show its been complete we've changed this to points spent, and the date they were spent on. This we find has been requested as its more clear when things were obtained. This allows an ST to track purchases precisely and prevents problem players from being dishonest if filled out poperly. - Combat Tab has been given an expansion with the addition of Vehicles and Havens! We may eventually change the Combat tab to the Equipment tab as it is more appropriate but it isn't a very pressing issue at the momement. We're also taking feedback on this new section. A number of folk liked this update in our Discord. -  Fixes: - Fixed the issue of Movement not being tracked properly it'll start with default values for everything now letting players and STs see a proper movement speed.  Here is a sample image of the new DA V20 Sheet. The V20 will also share this appearance other than the obvious differences such as Abilities and the banner.
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GiGs
Pro
Sheet Author
If you want to get this information out to as many people as possible, here's the way to do it: Delay your big push for another week For next week, push a small update: add a notice at the top of the character sheet, that changes are coming the week after, with a button to open up a section with more detailed information. The vast majority of people using the sheets will not be reading these forums, and are very unlikely to stuumble across the notification on twitter. But if they are using the sheet, they are guaranteed to see a notice you put on the sheet itself. (At least if they play weekly - that itself isnt guaranteed). Another method is to create a versioning sheet worker, that automatically migrates data when possible. I wouldnt be surprised if the devs on github require you to do this - I've seen it happen before for much smaller changes.
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Andreas J.
Forum Champion
Sheet Author
Yeah do the one week delay as GiGs suggests. I fudged up things literally this week bc I didn't test and wait enough for my update to be sure it's good enough(didn't change any stats but still caused major toruble), so I'm probably in for just having to revert things, and either spend good amount of time to playtest it with old sheets, or let the update rest for a good time.
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Rin Vindor
Pro
Sheet Author
Thats a pretty good idea, devs on github haven't required anything more than I'm doing now but I'll do just that and push out a small notice at the top of the sheet and give them an extra week. I haven't pushed the currently discussed sheet just yet anyway just in case.
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Havoc
Pro
Sheet Author
API Scripter
Looks great!
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Rin Vindor
Pro
Sheet Author
I appreciate it! I've been taking a lot of feedback via the Discord server and Twitch viewers who watch our VtM games. Still taking more of course but I can't really think of any major changes at this point its minor cleanup and tool tips that it needs now.