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Dungeon Scrawl Connects to Roll20 Tabletop

March 13 (5 months ago)

Edited March 13 (5 months ago)

Is there a way to turn off the nag screens for Dungeonscrawl? I don't want it, will never use it. Go away.
The final irritation was the ad in the chat sidebar... in my theatre-of-the-mind space opera game, where we only use R20 for character sheets because 2d playing mats do not replicate 3d space combat very well. I don't want this product. The promos were "communicative" the first 20 times but now they're obnoxious. Let me plan my games in peace!

March 13 (5 months ago)
keithcurtis
Forum Champion
Marketplace Creator
API Scripter

Hi Plural!

I think that chat box area is a dedicated spot to highlighting the latest upgrade or release. Eventually, the next new feature will replace the content of that spot. So if you could turn it off, you might also be turning off the next feature that you are interested in.

However, if you absolutely want to turn it off, and are comfortable using a CSS tool like Stylus, this style will suppress that box:

.message.news{
    display:none;
}


I wouldn't recommend it, though. You never know when important (to you) info will show up there.

March 14 (5 months ago)
Lavi
Roll20 Team

Hi Kel - Gold's absolutely on the right track! I'm just writing with more explicit steps and a link to our Help Center doc that covers this and more! If you're looking to edit a previously connected map, the experience differs on whether you are a Dungeon Scrawl Subscriber or not. Here's the insight into both, and more screenshots to help you are in the document:

1) For Dungeon Scrawl subscribers, your connected maps will retain their connection meaning that you can continue to make edits after closing the tab or window. Simply re-open the map from the library interface on Dungeon Scrawl and new changes will be propagated to the Roll20 side as well as long as you keep your connection toggled on.


2) For Free Dungeon Scrawl users, you will need to use a modified version of the "Connecting an existing Dungeon Scrawl map"

  • Open your saved Dungeon Scrawl map from your computer in Dungeon Scrawl via File > Open from save file
  • Navigate to the Roll20 logo on the left-hand toolbar to open the Connect with Roll20 menu
  • Click the Copy Connect Code button
  • Launch the Roll20 Tabletop game where you'd connected the previous version of this map
  • Within the Page Toolbar, locate the connected map and click the three vertical dots.
  • In the menu click "Edit Dungeon Scrawl Link"
  • Input the new Dungeon Scrawl Map ID Code and click "Edit"

This will reconnect the page to the reuploaded Dungeon Scrawl map so you can continue to make edits.




Gold said:


Kel said:

So far my only issue is editing a map on dungeon scrawl *after* closing the initial tab. So coming back to it later or changing it again another time seems impossible.

If I am overlooking a method to reopen the map to edit it for roll20, please let me know.

As is, it's a bit of a deal breaker as I need to be able to edit things as I realize I want or need something else.


I have mixed experiences with that Kel. Needs more playtesting.

Method to pick-back-up editing your DS again and see it in Roll20 again: 

Always use File > Save As... in Dungeonscrawl and save a .DS file on your hard drive.

You can later use File > OPEN > and reopen your saved .DS file, and then use Roll20 Connect to connect to another new Roll20 Page. In this way you can make new edits on your existing DS map, and see the DS changes in a new Roll20 page.

But can you re-connect it back to your existing Roll20Page? The Roll20 Page with the work you did on the Roll20 side of things (such as added tokens, PC's, NPC, monsters, furniture, Marketplace assets, drawings, Dynamic Lighting walls, explorer mode progress, Hide/Reveal mask, etc).

The DS does not stay Connected to your Roll20 Page if you ever close the DS.

But can you File>Open the DS file on the DS side, get the Connect code anew, and Connect it back to your existing Roll20 page? 

I'll have to test this again some-more to be able to comment/describe or know if this is a limitation or feature of Roll20 Connect. 




March 15 (5 months ago)
Kel
Pro


Lavi said:


1) For Dungeon Scrawl subscribers, your connected maps will retain their connection meaning that you can continue to make edits after closing the tab or window. Simply re-open the map from the library interface on Dungeon Scrawl and new changes will be propagated to the Roll20 side as well as long as you keep your connection toggled on.




That would be the fix. I guess the real issue then is advertisement, as I didn't know this until this post. That's a key point and likely a big reason for anyone to subscribe to Dungeon Scrawl. May want to make that point a bit more obvious <3

March 24 (4 months ago)

Hello there

nowhere in my Roll20 do I see any sort of option to call, import or activate anything having to do with Dungeon Scrawl.

is there a setting or something that I need to make in Roll 20,

in the help it says:

On the R01120 Tabletop:

    Create a new page using dropdown

and there is at least one point - the create a new page only has one option.. to add a map.. no other options.

can anybody help with this

B

March 24 (4 months ago)
Gold
Forum Champion

I can help with this.

The DungeonScrawl connection only works on Roll20 Jumpgate. 

It sounds like your game is probably in the classic / legacy Roll20 VTT (hey mine is too so I get it). 

Note you can still make a Dungeonscrawl on www.Dungeonscrawl.com and use Export As PNG... then you can upload the PNG map into your Roll20.

We just don't have access to the "Roll20 Connect" feature where you see your DS drawing live-in-Roll20 page. 


Baro B. said:

Hello there

nowhere in my Roll20 do I see any sort of option to call, import or activate anything having to do with Dungeon Scrawl.

is there a setting or something that I need to make in Roll 20,

in the help it says:

On the R01120 Tabletop:

    Create a new page using dropdown

and there is at least one point - the create a new page only has one option.. to add a map.. no other options.

can anybody help with this

B




March 24 (4 months ago)

ahh ok, well then to advertise it as a " you got this option " is incorrect and basically false advertising.. 

the addition of "you need this additional beta test option to make it work" would be really nice. 

I spent a few h, on this....  :(

Gold said:

I can help with this.

The DungeonScrawl connection only works on Roll20 Jumpgate. 

It sounds like your game is probably in the classic / legacy Roll20 VTT (hey mine is too so I get it). 

Note you can still make a Dungeonscrawl on www.Dungeonscrawl.com and use Export As PNG... then you can upload the PNG map into your Roll20.

We just don't have access to the "Roll20 Connect" feature where you see your DS drawing live-in-Roll20 page. 


Baro B. said:

Hello there

nowhere in my Roll20 do I see any sort of option to call, import or activate anything having to do with Dungeon Scrawl.

is there a setting or something that I need to make in Roll 20,

in the help it says:

On the R01120 Tabletop:

    Create a new page using dropdown

and there is at least one point - the create a new page only has one option.. to add a map.. no other options.

can anybody help with this

B







March 24 (4 months ago)
Gold
Forum Champion

I feel for ya, Baro.

To be fair I think that most of the Announcements have said you need Jumpgate but it is easy to overlook, and maybe you saw someplace that failed to mention that caveat.

Also, Jumpgate is out of Beta, and is now considered the new default Roll20, but we are allowed to continue using the old Classic roll20 for those who don't want to convert, or haven't decided to convert to Jumpgate yet. You can convert anytime. I didn't convert mine either, so I get it.

Last point, I've tested the Roll20 Connect, and I want to let you know that going to Dungeonscrawl website, make your map, and Export the PNG, is simply better anyway.

That's a shame about the wasted time, but I would strongly encourage you to just use Dungeonscrawl anyway, and upload your map to Roll20. It's pretty great and fairly powerful.


Baro B. said:


ahh ok, well then to advertise it as a " you got this option " is incorrect and basically false advertising.. 

the addition of "you need this additional beta test option to make it work" would be really nice. 

I spent a few h, on this....  :(

Gold said:

I can help with this.

The DungeonScrawl connection only works on Roll20 Jumpgate. 

It sounds like your game is probably in the classic / legacy Roll20 VTT (hey mine is too so I get it). 

Note you can still make a Dungeonscrawl on www.Dungeonscrawl.com and use Export As PNG... then you can upload the PNG map into your Roll20.

We just don't have access to the "Roll20 Connect" feature where you see your DS drawing live-in-Roll20 page. 


Baro B. said:

Hello there

nowhere in my Roll20 do I see any sort of option to call, import or activate anything having to do with Dungeon Scrawl.

is there a setting or something that I need to make in Roll 20,

in the help it says:

On the R01120 Tabletop:

    Create a new page using dropdown

and there is at least one point - the create a new page only has one option.. to add a map.. no other options.

can anybody help with this

B










March 24 (4 months ago)

Of course, if you're going to spend more than a few minutes on each map, something like Dungeondraft may be more appropriate. OSR is nice I suppose, but some of us prefer colour. And shading. And diverse asset choices.

March 26 (4 months ago)
Bill (Do Not Kill)
Pro
API Scripter

Soo, how EXACTLY is this supposed to work?  There are NO BUTTONS for Dungeon Scrawl on the VTT.  Yes, I am using Jumpgate.

March 26 (4 months ago)
Gold
Forum Champion


Bill (Do Not Kill) said:

Soo, how EXACTLY is this supposed to work?  There are NO BUTTONS for Dungeon Scrawl on the VTT.  Yes, I am using Jumpgate.


In your Jumpgate game table, go to the Pages menu, click the purple Create Page button (it is now a drop-down menu with 2 buttons for Dungeonscrawl)

March 27 (4 months ago)

I put off trying Jumpgate for fear it would destroy so much of my work. I started a new campaign and a lot of the tools and interface improvements are actually improvements, but the map grid is crazy. It is oppressive. Completely dominates the map to the point of making the actual map almost invisible.


March 27 (4 months ago)
Gauss
Forum Champion


Rick Z. said:

I put off trying Jumpgate for fear it would destroy so much of my work. I started a new campaign and a lot of the tools and interface improvements are actually improvements, but the map grid is crazy. It is oppressive. Completely dominates the map to the point of making the actual map almost invisible.



Hi Rick Z., 

Could you explain what you mean? Perhaps share some screenshots of what you mean by in Legacy vs Jumpgate?

March 27 (4 months ago)

Edited March 27 (4 months ago)

I agree that the default opacity of the grid in Jumpgate is a bit ... aggressive, but you can control the opacity and color of the grid on the page settings menu:



Rick Z. said:

I put off trying Jumpgate for fear it would destroy so much of my work. I started a new campaign and a lot of the tools and interface improvements are actually improvements, but the map grid is crazy. It is oppressive. Completely dominates the map to the point of making the actual map almost invisible.


April 04 (4 months ago)

Every time I have made a map so far, after a little bit the screen goes blank and all of my work is gone. On the drop down menu to choose what map my party is in with the ribbon, the preview shows my work, but selecting it reveals just the blank page again. 

April 04 (4 months ago)

love new Enovation of roll20 special making your own  table top dungeon map  . with this i could create my own simple version of dungeon crawl map . with dynamic lighting. creating  full map of 5 to 10 map layers great work guys make us game master . create our own dungeon master piece   

April 15 (4 months ago)

Edited April 15 (4 months ago)
Lavi
Roll20 Team

Jeremiah - I would suggest writing a ticket directly to our Help Center with your gamelink and page examples so we can take a look at your specific use case. We can't reproduce this on our side and haven't come across reports of disappearing maps, so we'll need a deeper review of your game for that.


Jeremiah L. said:

Every time I have made a map so far, after a little bit the screen goes blank and all of my work is gone. On the drop down menu to choose what map my party is in with the ribbon, the preview shows my work, but selecting it reveals just the blank page again. 




May 01 (3 months ago)

We played a session using Dungeon Scrawl last Tuesday, and the auto-update from Dungeon Scrawl to Roll20 kept stopping at random, at different intervals for different players. Refreshing Roll20 restored the auto-update connection for a few minutes each time.

I was the one using Dungeon Scrawl, and when the updates froze for me, it didn't necessarily freeze for other players, suggesting that the problem was on Roll20's side, since the updates were still being sent from Dungeon Scrawl and received by some on Roll20.

Some players were using Chrome and some Firefox.

May 08 (3 months ago)
Lavi
Roll20 Team

Aleksi - could you share your game link with me via DM? We would like to take a peak at your specific game as this is the first reported instance of such auto-update challenge, so want to dig in more.

Aleksi said:

We played a session using Dungeon Scrawl last Tuesday, and the auto-update from Dungeon Scrawl to Roll20 kept stopping at random, at different intervals for different players. Refreshing Roll20 restored the auto-update connection for a few minutes each time.

I was the one using Dungeon Scrawl, and when the updates froze for me, it didn't necessarily freeze for other players, suggesting that the problem was on Roll20's side, since the updates were still being sent from Dungeon Scrawl and received by some on Roll20.

Some players were using Chrome and some Firefox.




Just gave this a try for a quick battle map and this isn't ready for prime time yet:

  1. Maps are locked into 50x50 ... I'm trying to make a simple 20x20 meeting room in this case
  2. There is no zoom in / zoom out despite lots of "zoom in to find the resize handles" types of instructions.
  3. Can't resize many of the smaller images (for instances the provided doors images) due to problem 2.
  4. Constantly closing "upgrade now" popups when I try to do some simple things that are hidden behind a paywall ... I have pro Roll20 account, why am I being constantly being upsold?

This seems like such a no brainer since my #1 use case would be:

  1. Create a page with a given size
  2. Knock off a quick battle map
  3. Return to roll 20 and add my monsters and tokens
  4. Move the players to my new map
May 23 (2 months ago)
Katie Mae🔮
Roll20 Team


Robert O. said:

Just gave this a try for a quick battle map and this isn't ready for prime time yet:

  1. Maps are locked into 50x50 ... I'm trying to make a simple 20x20 meeting room in this case
  2. There is no zoom in / zoom out despite lots of "zoom in to find the resize handles" types of instructions.
  3. Can't resize many of the smaller images (for instances the provided doors images) due to problem 2.
  4. Constantly closing "upgrade now" popups when I try to do some simple things that are hidden behind a paywall ... I have pro Roll20 account, why am I being constantly being upsold?

This seems like such a no brainer since my #1 use case would be:

  1. Create a page with a given size
  2. Knock off a quick battle map
  3. Return to roll 20 and add my monsters and tokens
  4. Move the players to my new map


Howdy howdy! Will you share your troubles with #2 a bit more? In both Dungeon Scrawl and Roll20, you should be able to zoom in with your mouses's scroll wheel or the +/- keys. If you're unable to, that's definitely something the team would want to hear about!

May 23 (2 months ago)
Gold
Forum Champion

While I agree the DS Roll20-Connect integration has those issues, Robert, 

What you CAN do easily is open Dungeonscrawl, and follow your Use-Case steps 1-2-3-4. The only difference is you need to Export PNG from Dungeonscrawl, and drag-drop that PNG onto a blank Roll20 Page. (This is the way to use DS with Roll20 without using the "Roll20 Connect" integration). This will escape the problem of 50x50.

Robert O. said:

This seems like such a no brainer since my #1 use case would be:

  1. Create a page with a given size
  2. Knock off a quick battle map
  3. Return to roll 20 and add my monsters and tokens
  4. Move the players to my new map