Tim K. said: im thinking about building a bard of some sort(satyr maybe) i want it to be a little melee heavy suggestions? What kind of heavy melee do you have in mind? Satyr's are archetypal Bards but they have a couple other solid choices. Depends on which stat bump you take. For the defender role a Satyr would make a good Battlemind or an acceptable Cha Paladin . If you're more into the leader role, a Satyr would make a good Valorous Bard or Euphoric Ardent . If you're striker oriented, you may want to look into certain Sorcerer builds, certain Monk builds, Warlock/Hexblade , Assassin/Executioner , or Rogue . Finally, if controller is your idea of heavy melee, certain Binder (Warlock) builds and certain Bard builds are what you may want to look into. Hope this helps you make up your mind. :P Edit: Ooops, I misread your comment. XD If you wanna focus on heavy melee as a Bard , well, you might look into the Skald subclass. The Skald's Aura healing ability is a passive aura that your allies can use to heal themselves, freeing up your hands to smack things with your weapon of choice. :)