Thank you for reassuring us that existing fields will not be overwritten or replaced. That's an important starting point, that helps ease some of the stress from changes to a widely used sheet. The "Number of Spells Per Level" that you created is also a cool, useful chart, that doesn't look enormously bulky. In many ways this round of changes sounds more like forking a new sheet, not necessarily a continuation of Simple Sheet. Please allow me to try a different angle on expressing this position. Some users don't want more tabs added either, and also not excessive Attributes (which are bulky to load en masse ). I'm speaking for myself but also checked-in today with 2 other 2E DM's (Tyler and Jason) who use this sheet and they said preferably no new tabs + continue to emphasize free text fields. We feel Macros can be made adequately with existing Attributes. I've implored them to pop into one of these threads and express that directly to those following this discussion, as well. Tabs is one of the complaints about the Complicated 2E sheet. I felt like Alex said earlier that tabs weren't desirable and the Spells tab would be merged into the main sheet. Is that the intent here? I think that is an interesting interpretation to read that "Order" is a category of alignment in 2E from the highlighted PHB citation, but this can get into Rules debates that seems off topic for the forum. Plain evidence -- I've never seen a 2e Character Sheet with that bifurcation in the Label of the Field (not in official or unofficial print sheets, and not in any digital sheets of 2E either; of course I have seen the word "order" used in the books and graphs and explanations, but not as an Attribute Label). It sounds very cool, for a homebrew designation, maybe fork that onto a Custom Sheet for your games. Also I understand what you mean & how the word order as a noun correlates to Lawful the alignment terminology of the game. It's similar to calling Strength, "power" or "might". If anything these fields should be labeled Alignment (the 2E term that's capitalized in the headline of the screenshot PHB citation), however also we already have Free Text alignment field on the front page therefore it probably doesn't need to be added again as additional Attributes (bulk), so, back around to forking (or at least explaining and demonstrating) if there's a reason some people want that. Might help if someone could explain/demonstrate what could be done with the Alignment and Race drop-downs that would be advantageous or useful, and worth adding bulk to the sheet? That could go towards convincing users like me, of the purpose. Is this simply to auto-detect whether a Priest has Protection From Good, or Protection From Evil? I can't think of very many instances where spellcasting macros would be impacted whatsoever by knowing Lawful vs Chaotic (2e terminology). Would that be for accessing the Priestly Sphere of Chaos, Sphere of Law? A larger freetext box named "Spells" (Looks similar to a blank Microsoft Word Doc) (Or enlargement of the existing Spellbook text field) would serve my spellcaster sheets better than the currently-proposed drop-downs. I'd appreciate it very much if one of the Sheet Authors could improve the existing Spells section by enlarging the existing Free Text areas there. What about the one called Race? Why would that need to be something
other than the existing Free Text field "Race"? Is there intent to
automatically write Special Abilities or Adjust Saving Throws? DM Jason said today, we would like a Simple Sheet that is like the classic AD&D 2E 'green sheet', basically has some nice blanks that we can fill in. Good qualities for "Simple" Sheet are: Lightweight, Freeform, Flexible, Short, Clear, Unlimited, Plain, Extensible, Modular, Hideable. My definition of "Simple" Sheet would not be: Holds your hand, limits your choices, automates everything. That's not the same kind of simple. I can see how that would be simpler for some users, but maybe not for others who already rely on this sheet.