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D&D Sheet: Print to PDF Beta Feedback

We just launched Print to PDF for the new D&D Fifth Edition sheet! It's available both in-VTT and in Roll20 Characters . We tested this pretty heavily internally, but as a small team there's no way to cover every possible character configuration. Over the next few weeks, if you spot anything weird, drop a screenshot in this thread. Stretch goal: include a link to the game or Roll20 Characters sheet and that helps us even more! Thank you so much!!
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The layout for spells sure uses up a lot of paper.
Great feedback! We just deployed an update that should solve for this. Can you try again and let us know if that's better?  Terry W. said: The layout for spells sure uses up a lot of paper.
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Scaling pages too large (one page continues into the top portion of the next,) and if I try to adjust any print settings it reverts to looking like the webpage…
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Spells are better, the page count for my test warlock dropped from 27 to 18 pages... But moving Notes to a new row underneath the Name/Casting Time/etc. line and allowing it to use the full width of the page would be better. Or changing Name/Casting Time to a stack in one column, giving more room for Notes in a second column. In the 2 column Inventory section (Equipment and Possessions), a little balancing of the columns would also save some space.  Personally, I'd be thrilled with options to PDF, like Markdown or JSON. 
That's really interesting -- especially those black bars forming on the edges! Can you tell me the following?  1. Which browser are you using? 2. Are you using the print button, or cmd/cntrl-P? 3. What application are you using to open / view that PDF? Thank you! RPGeezer said: Scaling pages too large (one page continues into the top portion of the next,) and if I try to adjust any print settings it reverts to looking like the webpage…
Thanks Terry! We've been playing with some placement since internal testing, and your notes on this are really useful! Terry W. said: Spells are better, the page count for my test warlock dropped from 27 to 18 pages... But moving Notes to a new row underneath the Name/Casting Time/etc. line and allowing it to use the full width of the page would be better. Or changing Name/Casting Time to a stack in one column, giving more room for Notes in a second column. In the 2 column Inventory section (Equipment and Possessions), a little balancing of the columns would also save some space.  Personally, I'd be thrilled with options to PDF, like Markdown or JSON. 
This is using the print button with Safari on my iPad Pro. The print preview pane that pops up. Just tried it on the iPad Chrome browser and it just showed about 3/4 of the first page. Will test on my Mac Mini tomorrow in case it is just an iPad issue… Dean said: That's really interesting -- especially those black bars forming on the edges! Can you tell me the following?  1. Which browser are you using? 2. Are you using the print button, or cmd/cntrl-P? 3. What application are you using to open / view that PDF? Thank you! RPGeezer said: Scaling pages too large (one page continues into the top portion of the next,) and if I try to adjust any print settings it reverts to looking like the webpage…
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This is a great start, I love it, especially the combat reference section since that helps a lot especially for new players. A couple of feedback items though, if a feature has some sort of Action/Bonus Action/whatever associated with it I would love to see the number of feature uses listed under the action in the combat section. For example a sorcerer with Innate Sorcery, it adds that feature to the Bonus Action section (Great) but it doesn't show the number of uses you have to go all the way to the features section of the sheet for that. I would argue that the checkboxes should live where the feature is used rather than where the definition of the feature is. Second, I'm not seeing spells list their Verbal/Somatic components anywhere, only Concentration/Ritual/Material. Third, just thinking out loud... the spells in combat reference get a bit verbose with the "notes". I understand the sentiment on having them there but honestly I don't think it's worth the space. Perhaps combining the cantrips/prepared spells page with the combat reference would be more space/page effective. It's easy enough if a player doesn't remember the specifics of a spell to know they need to flip to the spell reference later in the sheet. The other alternative which would be a pain for you guys to do is add another spell description that gets rid of all the fluff that can be put in these notes. That doesn't seem reasonable though, it's just what I would I would do to my own sheet data if I was playing a spell caster (or making a sheet for someone else). Forth, this is just a nit and a problem with printing character sheets in general... things like current HP/XP, gold, etc should have the ability to be blank when printed so you can just write in the correct values yourself. Luckily right now it seems like all of those numbers are a lighter color and have enough space around them to write in your own values which I think is a fine solution. Again, I really enjoy this sheet and I think it's better than other places that allow you to print sheets and I'm excited to see what changes and features you add! *Edit* One other nit/suggestion... y'all did a good job with the page breaks, but one thing that could elevate it IMO is when you have to break something from a list (ie: Attacks) onto a new page, it would be cool to include the Attacks header again. Something like "Attacks (Continued...)". You already are doing with this the table headers, so just seeing it with the section header itself would be cool! *Edit 2* I just found one other thing... in the features sections where we have 2 columns there needs to be some work to force a feature to the other column if it would cause the feature to be split between 2 pages / have a way of forcing the entire feature to a new page instead of part on one and part on the other. With my fighter here it feels weird that it says "Tactical Mind" but the entire description of the feature is on another page, where I would expect to find it in the 2nd column instead. And then Psionic Power gets split between the 2 pages as well.
Aikepah said: Third, just thinking out loud... the spells in combat reference get a bit verbose with the "notes". I understand the sentiment on having them there but honestly I don't think it's worth the space. Perhaps combining the cantrips/prepared spells page with the combat reference would be more space/page effective. It's easy enough if a player doesn't remember the specifics of a spell to know they need to flip to the spell reference later in the sheet. The other alternative which would be a pain for you guys to do is add another spell description that gets rid of all the fluff that can be put in these notes. That doesn't seem reasonable though, it's just what I would I would do to my own sheet data if I was playing a spell caster (or making a sheet for someone else). Thanks for all the detailed feedback! This is something I wanted to call out in particular, because it's something we considered but didn't do for the first round/beta version of this...when I used to handwrite all my character sheets, I obviously didn't write out all the spells. I would write down "Cure Wounds - touch, 1d8+3 heal, 1d8 lvl+" and called it good. Add VSM if your DM is especially strict on those. We did consider adding a new field that a player could fill in for each attack or spell that basically amounts to "what you'd see when you print" so people can add their own shortenings, or later on we could go back into the data and add something "official" to make it a shorter print. Our compromise on that was to leave the Notes section blank on page 2 so people can just add spells there and fill in the shortenings and not bother with the other pages at all if they don't want. But that option is still on the table and doable...I can't commit to anything because that requires sustained, continual work outside of just myself to maintain but I wanted to make sure you knew that we're on the same page.