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Improving Audio, Storage, and Performance

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Kenton
Roll20 Team
mAc said: Is there a way to delete songs you uploaded? Yes, click on the pencil icon then a trash can icon is available to delete. We had to rush the delivery of the feature when Fanburst announced their shutdown. There are significant improvements coming to make this more clear in the near future with the second part of the Bring Your Own Beat update.
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mAc
Pro
Thanks! And yeah, I noticed fanburst is still up, and some of the songs still work. But half of the songs don't, so it's a crapshoot.
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Si je prends un abonnement, ai-je accès à la musique et aux bruitages ? :)
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Ziechael
Forum Champion
Sheet Author
API Scripter
Tous les utilisateurs ont accès à la musique et aux effets sonores via les batailles de bataille existantes, l'audio de table et l'intégration incompetech. Alors que fanburst s'arrête, voici la nouvelle solution «Mon audio» de Roll20, qui permet aux utilisateurs de télécharger leur propre contenu. En tant qu'utilisateur gratuit, vous n'avez pas moins de fonctionnalités, mais juste moins d'espace de stockage pour vos propres actifs. L'utilisation des autres intégrations ne compte cependant pas dans votre stockage. J'espère que ça aide. (Présenté par Google Translate) All users have access to music and sound effects via the existing battlebards, tabletop audio and incompetech integration. As fanburst is shutting down this is Roll20's new 'My Audio' solution to allow users to upload their own content. As a free user you have no less functionality, just less storage space for your own assets. Using the other integrations does not count against your storage however. I hope that helps. (Brought to you by Google Translate) Stéphane L. said: Si je prends un abonnement, ai-je accès à la musique et aux bruitages ? :)
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Ziechael a déclaré: Tous les utilisateurs ont accès à la musique et aux effets sonores via les batailles de la bataille, l'audio de table et l'intégration incompetech. Alors que les fans s'arrêtent, voici la nouvelle solution «Mon audio» de Roll20, qui permet aux utilisateurs de télécharger leur propre contenu. En tant qu'utilisateur gratuit, vous n'avez pas moins de fonctionnalités, mais juste moins de stockage pour vos propres actifs. Utiliser des autres intégrations avec votre compte. J'espère que ça aide. (Présenté par Google Translate) Merci pour la réponse. Le souci, c'est que je n'ai quasiment pas de musiques et de bruitages sur mon ordinateur. J'aurais été prêt à payer si j'avais pu avoir le même contenu qu'avant. :) Quelqu'un aurait une set liste de musiques et d'effets sonores à me donner pour que je puisse la télécharger dans roll20 ? :)
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Natha
Roll20 Production Team
Sheet Author
API Scripter
Stéphane L. said: Ziechael a déclaré: Tous les utilisateurs ont accès à la musique et aux effets sonores via les batailles de la bataille, l'audio de table et l'intégration incompetech. Alors que les fans s'arrêtent, voici la nouvelle solution «Mon audio» de Roll20, qui permet aux utilisateurs de télécharger leur propre contenu. En tant qu'utilisateur gratuit, vous n'avez pas moins de fonctionnalités, mais juste moins de stockage pour vos propres actifs. Utiliser des autres intégrations avec votre compte. J'espère que ça aide. (Présenté par Google Translate) Merci pour la réponse. Le souci, c'est que je n'ai quasiment pas de musiques et de bruitages sur mon ordinateur. J'aurais été prêt à payer si j'avais pu avoir le même contenu qu'avant. :) Quelqu'un aurait une set liste de musiques et d'effets sonores à me donner pour que je puisse la télécharger dans roll20 ? :) Salut Stéphane. Tu peux trouver nombre de mp3 de musique d'ambiance et/ou de bruitage à acheter (sur DriveThruRpg par exemple). Que tu peux télécharger sur ton PC, une fois achetés, et ensuite charger sur Roll20 au fur et à mesure de tes besoins. En en prenant un peu de temps et en fouillant un peu, tu peux trouver du gratuit, mais c'est un peu plus laborieux.
Stéphane L. said: Ziechael a déclaré: Tous les utilisateurs ont accès à la musique et aux effets sonores via les batailles de la bataille, l'audio de table et l'intégration incompetech. Alors que les fans s'arrêtent, voici la nouvelle solution «Mon audio» de Roll20, qui permet aux utilisateurs de télécharger leur propre contenu. En tant qu'utilisateur gratuit, vous n'avez pas moins de fonctionnalités, mais juste moins de stockage pour vos propres actifs. Utiliser des autres intégrations avec votre compte. J'espère que ça aide. (Présenté par Google Translate) Merci pour la réponse. Le souci, c'est que je n'ai quasiment pas de musiques et de bruitages sur mon ordinateur. J'aurais été prêt à payer si j'avais pu avoir le même contenu qu'avant. :) Quelqu'un aurait une set liste de musiques et d'effets sonores à me donner pour que je puisse la télécharger dans roll20 ? :) Pour de la musique gratuite en ligne, essayez de rechercher de la musique Creative Commons sur Google. Voici un bon lien pour vous aider à démarrer <a href="https://creativecommons.org/about/program-areas/arts-culture/arts-culture-resources/legalmusicforvideos/" rel="nofollow">https://creativecommons.org/about/program-areas/arts-culture/arts-culture-resources/legalmusicforvideos/</a> Pour les effets sonores, essayez <a href="https://freesound.org/" rel="nofollow">https://freesound.org/</a> &nbsp; ou <a href="http://bbcsfx.acropolis.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://bbcsfx.acropolis.org.uk/</a> Traduit avec Google Translate
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Can we get "make folder" for packs we have bought. Once you own 10+ it would be nice to be able to organize them my own way
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mAc
Pro
Actually that reminds me. One feature that always has been sorely missing has been the ability to nest categories/folders when making playlists. It makes organizing tracks a lot harder. Can we get that in the future?
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Hello a tous Comment on supprime un fichier audio sur my audio ?? merci
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keithcurtis
Forum Champion
EDGARRA said: Hello everyone How to delete an audio file on my audio ?? thank you Modifiez le nom de la piste en cliquant sur l’icône crayon. Le nom sera éditable. Cliquez sur la coche pour terminer la modification, sur le X pour annuler la modification ou sur la corbeille pour supprimer entièrement la piste. Edit the track's name by clicking the pencil icon.&nbsp;The name will be editable.&nbsp;Click the checkmark to finish editing it, the X to cancel editing,&nbsp;&nbsp; or the trash can to delete the track entirely. Translation by Google Translate
For the love of....just make a deal with Syrinscape already!!!!
WraithKind said: For the love of....just make a deal with Syrinscape already!!!! Unless you know exactly how to do business dealings and how you could do it perfectly yourself, don't go around telling them what business decisions they should make. They've done more than enough already in pushing the My Audio feature early because of Fanburst.
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mAc
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Is there a way to tell what the original name of a song was if you renamed it and can't remember what it was? And the normal option to trace its original location doesn't work anymore because it was a fanburst song. (Unless that can be enabled.)
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Ravenknight
KS Backer
WraithKind said: For the love of....just make a deal with Syrinscape already!!!! Please no! Not another third-party that will cut service just as things are strarting to work. Two times are two too many.
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Has their been any updates on the issue of 4-5mb files not uploading?&nbsp;
Can you make Volo's Guide and Mordenkanin's work on the charactermancer for godsake? Stop doing all this other dumb stuff and make this happen.
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Good job! A little shame point, but i like your solution.
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Leon
Pro
I just want to chime in about the Audio/Visual component.&nbsp; My group has 7 players. We haven't had a session for about 2 months (DM had personal issues) so I'm eager to see if the problems we have are solved. At our last session we spent an hour just to connect everyone so that we could each hear each other. We ended up using a phone-conference solution.&nbsp; Maybe it's fixed. I'll see next time we play. But this is the biggest issue with Roll20. If you read all the gaming forums (not Roll20), like Facebook and Reddit, the common answer to "what do you use" comes up "Roll20/Discord" a whole lot. People love the interface but couldn't tolerate the audio fails.&nbsp; I'll make the same point I made a couple of years ago when the AV software was a disaster: Having an outstanding A/V solution is the most important business objective Roll20 should have.&nbsp; Fixing that and making it the best solution out there is critical.&nbsp; The Jukebox feature is a "nice to have". Being able to hear your DM is a "must have" requirement.
This entire ordeal made me unwilling to pay for roll 20. I've been a subscriber, but when you force users to upload actual audio files to play music in their games, in 2019, I have to consider what you're doing.
I'll make the same point I made a couple of years ago when the AV software was a disaster: Having an outstanding A/V solution is the most important business objective Roll20 should have.&nbsp; Fixing that and making it the best solution out there is critical.&nbsp; I'll chime in here because I think you may be making an incorrect assumption about some of the people who choose to separate their A/V from Roll20.&nbsp; Even if Roll20 had a great stable A/V solution, I would much prefer distributing the workload with discord doing all the A/V (or whichever is your fav group chat/call program) and Roll20 being dedicated to running the game.&nbsp; So, at the risk of provoking an internet argument, from my perspective, I'd rather Roll20 concentrating on making the experience of running the game mechanics on a VTT better than prioritizing A/V.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Ever since the closing of Fanburst and the move to self-uploading music; the idea is ultimately a good thing for Roll20 to stay self-reliant, it's become very difficult to keep an actual playlist of music in games. I myself run two-three games in a given period so much of my 100 Mb is taken up by images that often times I need. I at best get around 20 Mb to put in some music that I am forced to shuffle around, delete and re-upload songs when they become relevant. Yes I am aware there are three other sources for music but one of them (Tabletop Audio) has little variety and the others just don't have the right music for me anyway. Again I know that what I am asking for comes across as ungrateful for what I already have and I am sort of stream-of-consciousness ranting but this was never a problem until Fanburst closed down so I have to ask such a thing. I understand that there is frankly a lot to choose from but you do get the freedom to upload your own music to add your own life to the game that isn't your everyday instrumental medieval track and though you get that freedom you really don't if you plan to run a game or two. I did like seeing that paid subscriptions got an immense boost in space, but the fact that base subscriptions stayed at a pitiful 100 Mb was only going to either force those who could not afford it to buy it, or find another site that does what Roll20 does and I don't want to leave this place. I am not even asking for a gig, because if you just avoid extended songs most tracks don't take more than ten megabytes and I don't need that sizeable of a playlist nor do I need the extra space and features (not sure how others use their music but I know for a fact that several were not pleased that nothing was added to base even if a small amount). Even if it was just bumped to 200-300 Mb that would free up so much space for music playlists, and offer plenty of room to add enough to make a playlist comfortable in addition to holding your resources that you need for running your game. I just found it honestly either inconsiderate, insulting, or embarrassing (not sure which one of those I feel) to not even offer a little breathing room when Fanburst was going down and many people to my knowledge on Roll20 don't actually pay to use its services. I guarantee you the paying members didn't need their space tripled or if they did how can you afford that much space but not 50 mb for free users? It really is mind boggling to me though I do speak from little understanding of the infrastructure and Roll20's actual situation. A buy in for 500mb or something similar one time I think would also be fair (I would actually pay then.) Bottom line it completely hampers the potential for proper music that fits to the games to be added, and I doubt I am alone in thinking such a thing. I'm not sure how programming works but is a plugin to use links from a place like Youtube viable or is that also a legal madhouse? Again I am incredibly grateful for all the site does and I apologize if this seems kind of curt or rude.&nbsp;
I just want to second what Flunktastic has said, and add that I think a one-time purchase for extra storage space is an amazing idea. It's a good business model, and I know I'd pay for it. If an alternative to roll 20 presents itself, I'm going to jump to it in a second. That would not be the case if I could purchase extra storage. 100 mb was the intended storage space back when you had fanburst and soundcloud before that. It made sense then. Now it's kind of insane.
I do appreciate however the many amounts of Pro users coming to the back of the non-paying members. It does show that the membership itself does not mean you don't have to care for those who can't do it.
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CeeJay B.
Roll20 Team
Hey everyone, Thanks for keeping us up to date on your concerns. Our eyes are still on this thread as we work toward sustainable additions to our audio offerings. More updates are on the way, as soon as these options become more concrete.
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It wouldn't make sense for roll 20 to create an alternative payment method that would cause existing subscribers to switch to that cheaper alternative. No company wants to lose money. I've been a member since 2013. All I've been using is the basic drawing and the 100 mb storage. I don't need additional features like shading or programming, all I need is like 300 mb storage space. Consider the insanity of asking me to pay 300 dollars over that period of time, for a fraction of the storage space that cloud services offer for free.&nbsp; That doesn't make sense from a business perspective, for roll 20. I would have paid a one-time sum of 50$ for 1GB storage space, easily. That would have saved me a lot of pain over the years. What I won't do is pay 50$ every year, which adds up to several hundred dollars over the years, for a problem I can solve by being smart with file sizes.&nbsp; That leads me to the main problem with roll 20's business model: Roll 20's cheapest offer isn't as low-threshold as they think. I know it sounds strange to some people, but a lot of roll 20 users just can't afford the 5$ monthly subscription. You have to consider that this site is global, and a lot of people here live hand to mouth. RPG players aren't millionaires, for the most part. Most of my players are students, young people, creative types who don't have a steady income, and I've had quite a lot of players with some sort of disability. Roll 20 should give us a low-threshold alternative that won't incentivize existing subscribers to quit and buy that instead. Make it a lot worse than the existing plus membership (just give us slightly more storage space), but a one-time purchase, or a very cheap monthly subscription. This is free income for roll 20. People want a cheaper alternative to get more storage space.