Transmogrifier allow copying of folders

Erich S. said: It was insinuated a while back, maybe a year ago, that this would be finally resolved in Jumpgate.  Maybe they will give us the ability to move folders in Jumpgate.  Maybe? That's what i'm hoping. But they've mostly been silent on this since then.

I wonder how much the high turnover at Roll20 affects initiatives like this? I noticed that the fellow who replied on this thread a year ago no longer shows as "Roll20 Team" but a lowly "Pro" user like ourselves. Searles is his name if I recall.  Did the work to make this pretty enough go out the door with him?

Erich S. said: I wonder how much the high turnover at Roll20 affects initiatives like this? I noticed that the fellow who replied on this thread a year ago no longer shows as "Roll20 Team" but a lowly "Pro" user like ourselves. Searles is his name if I recall.  Did the work to make this pretty enough go out the door with him? I never thought of that. That'd make sense why so many projects seem to take forever and about every update is full of bugs if they have such a high turnover lately. 0_O

Roll20 please we still need this. :) 

For the same issue, i made a copy of my main campaign and then i deleted all the maps. This means the game maitained all macros, APIs, and monsters including all macros and settings and all i had to is upload new maps

Viggo said: For the same issue, i made a copy of my main campaign and then i deleted all the maps. This means the game maitained all macros, APIs, and monsters including all macros and settings and all i had to is upload new maps That's tragic! tell tech support sometimes they can help

One of the highest upvoted topics for years now. 

Yeah, +1 from me.

I wonder if we'll hit the 10 year mark of wanting this feature lol. 

Almost 10 years guys. We still need this. Cmon you can do it devs~ :) 

Once again, I find myself working on a game with Roll20, and once again its so much effort I see so many opportunities to improve the experience. I have a bunch of campaign info on a vastly over-sized campaign i am playing, that I made before I really understood some of the finer workings (limitations) of the platform. Now I want to bring a selection of content from that game into the much leaner smaller game I have set up to run just one Chapter of that campaign. Managable and neat. But omfg, I have to bring every separate page over - every single thing in the world, without any organisation other than an a-z index, and then i have to recreate folders and re-organise everything by hand.  Please f or the love of "why-are-we-paying-for-this" give us this improvement. Please. Plllleeeaaase! Organisation is the heart of content management - we need it! R20 needs it badly! would benefit from it a lot!

2 Years ago... May 30 (2 years ago) Andrew Searles said: As it stands today, we have a working prototype that allows you to move over the folder from one game to another but you can't see what is in that folder when you're in the Transmogrifier. This would be AMAZING ! As Is.  and  yet  (2 years ago)

I have several hundred maps in a dozen or so folders. It would be so nice to have the ability to move the folders. The new improvement to condense categories in the transmogrifier is fluff compared to the heavy lifting it takes to move and re-order hundreds of maps much less handouts and such.

JD said: 2 Years ago... May 30 (2 years ago) Andrew Searles said: As it stands today, we have a working prototype that allows you to move over the folder from one game to another but you can't see what is in that folder when you're in the Transmogrifier. This would be AMAZING ! As Is.  and  yet  (2 years ago) We ALMOST had it too. I saw a working prototype. It worked well enough.  Simply  being able to see the folders and sheets would be huge if they don't want people moving whole folders. But NOTHING has been done. :/ It's baffling. Even the tool "characters" where you can port in your sheets doesn't have folders or any way to organize things. I guess they're cheaping out on storage?? I'm just baffled constantly on this. 

+1

It's nice to see that Roll20 is still rolling out changes to the system: primarily for the newest games and such. Yet they won't finish this working process so everyone can use it. If I played Daggerhard I am sure this new range thing would be great. But does it help anyone else? No, not really. 4th bubble on tokens? I'm all for it and I can use it myself. Being able to move folders of handouts, maps, characters, etc would surely trump all that in my opinion.

Erich S. said: It's nice to see that Roll20 is still rolling out changes to the system: primarily for the newest games and such. Yet they won't finish this working process so everyone can use it. If I played Daggerhard I am sure this new range thing would be great. But does it help anyone else? No, not really. 4th bubble on tokens? I'm all for it and I can use it myself. Being able to move folders of handouts, maps, characters, etc would surely trump all that in my opinion. I  have to agree. Or at the very least make it so we can organize things better or view what things are when we're moving.  We've been able to move character sheets out of game to store for awhile but no way to really organize them. That'd be a simple one.  The endless wait is real. 

Sure would be nice to move all of my folders from game to game without having to track if hundreds of maps and such copied over correctly.

Erich S. said: Sure would be nice to move all of my folders from game to game without having to track if hundreds of maps and such copied over correctly. Really does take forever. Wish they'd at least show the folders so we know where stuff is. 

Please roll20 please please please~ 

Mr. NumNums said: Please roll20 please please please~  An option to see folders and what characters are in said folders would be useful at the very least.  If the idea of moving the whole folder scares the devs due to heavy load or soemthing (although we can copy games so i don't see that being a real problem) It'd be a nice compromise. 

+1 I need this!!!

With the introduction of the "Elite" subscription where electronic pack rats can keep even more stuff on Roll20: the issue of moving even more data between games is even more important. I have close to a thousand maps Roll20 and another hundred or so in the works. It becomes burdensome to move each one, one at a time, and hope they make it. Roll20 has given people the ability to make their collections larger and now need to give us the ability to move items easier.

Erich S. said: With the introduction of the "Elite" subscription where electronic pack rats can keep even more stuff on Roll20: the issue of moving even more data between games is even more important. I have close to a thousand maps Roll20 and another hundred or so in the works. It becomes burdensome to move each one, one at a time, and hope they make it. Roll20 has given people the ability to make their collections larger and now need to give us the ability to move items easier. I agree. There needs to be something better.  I'd settle with simply being able to view the sheets to transfer easier. Just the names without pictures or knowing what folders they're in when trying to transfer is annoying.  I end up having to screenshot my games for later transfers.  We still need this. 

I agree 100%. I would also like the ability to share my personally owned content that doesn't violate copyright with other GM's tables. Suppose I write a table to randomize encounters. It takes me 10 hours. I would like to share it with a GM in a game in which I play...but without using API or some other work around, I cannot. It would be nice to move it with the Transmogrifier. Erich S. said: With the introduction of the "Elite" subscription where electronic pack rats can keep even more stuff on Roll20: the issue of moving even more data between games is even more important. I have close to a thousand maps Roll20 and another hundred or so in the works. It becomes burdensome to move each one, one at a time, and hope they make it. Roll20 has given people the ability to make their collections larger and now need to give us the ability to move items easier.

Interesting, went looking for the post where Roll20 admitted to having a working prototype yet could not find it. Fortunately someone else had captured it:

Erich S. said: Interesting, went looking for the post where Roll20 admitted to having a working prototype yet could not find it. Fortunately someone else had captured it: Yeah i saw it working. :/ But I think they planned on the sheet maker being more robust but dialed it back? 

It is great that Roll20 has finally given us map pins. That allows us to pin all sorts of handouts to maps.  Boy, it sure would be nice to have a way to move all of those handouts from game to game...

Erich S. said: It is great that Roll20 has finally given us map pins. That allows us to pin all sorts of handouts to maps.  Boy, it sure would be nice to have a way to move all of those handouts from game to game... Lol yeah that'd be something alright. 

only 566 upvotes for this change. everyone should get your players to upvote this because if only dm's are upvoting it, it will never be taken seriously. 

Stephen H. said: only 566 upvotes for this change. everyone should get your players to upvote this because if only dm's are up-voting it, it will never be taken seriously.  Funny enough it's in the top ten most upvoted suggestion.  Top 3 suggestion that hasn't been completed yet  all the other ones above it in the top 10 spot have been completed in some way or form I agree we need to get everyone in on this. 

+1

Still need this bad. Any change to it would be great. Able to see folders or where the sheets are. Something.  As it still stands it's just a long list of no pictures and just names. 

Stephen H. said: only 566 upvotes for this change. everyone should get your players to upvote this because if only dm's are upvoting it, it will never be taken seriously.  I ask people that I play with, and have not asked yet, to go vote for the things I voted for. Some do: some don't.  But the effort is made.

Erich S. said: Stephen H. said: only 566 upvotes for this change. everyone should get your players to upvote this because if only dm's are upvoting it, it will never be taken seriously.  I ask people that I play with, and have not asked yet, to go vote for the things I voted for. Some do: some don't.  But the effort is made. The thing is it's the second most voted for thing that hasn't been implement. top 11 otherwise in votes. So i'm not sure how many votes it'd need for it to be implemented in some way or form. 

I will be honest, I am shocked that this has not been implemented yet.   The Roll20 crew talks about how they want to make things easier for us, QOL improvements, etc..  but something like this just gets ignored.   

Tilt said: I will be honest, I am shocked that this has not been implemented yet.   The Roll20 crew talks about how they want to make things easier for us, QOL improvements, etc..  but something like this just gets ignored.    Yeah it's kinda tilting I gotta say.  They haven't done much with any of it.  being able to see folders at least would be cool. or even folders for the out of game character storage would be amazing. Seems ease of use isn't on their priority list when it comes to character management. 

A week ago Mike T., of the Roll 20 Team wrote: "I know we've fallen short, and we are committed to doing better and being transparent with you as we navigate these challenges." <a href="https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/12661502/a-note-from-the-cto-mike-todd-stability-accountability-and-our-path-forward#post-12669257" rel="nofollow">https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/12661502/a-note-from-the-cto-mike-todd-stability-accountability-and-our-path-forward#post-12669257</a> Mike, can we get an update on this? I believe it was "obstructed" before Jumpgate was deployed. We know there was a working prototype according to Andrew Searles two years ago which wasn't pretty or some such. What has been done in the past two years?

We NEED this. Main reason&nbsp;I didn't go with Pro.

Hasn't this Suggestion had the "Obstructed" tag since before Jumpgate was invented? Wasn't the purpose of Jumpgate to update the Roll20 code so that user Suggestions could be implemented and more features added? Is the current Roll20 Engine capable of taking this Suggestion off of "Obstructed" status? What is the obstruction at this point, Roll20?&nbsp;

I am once again asking to allow the copying of folders.

Copying of folders would be very nice. I've hesitated to buy modules due to being unable to shift over Criminal organizations and re-occurring villains and their various supporting characters along with dungeon infrastructure from game to game seamlessly due to the copying one by one rule.

Need this. No reason to ever go with a Pro subscription over Plus if the main benefit (the copying of characters) is unusable.

pokey wokey

Just to be clear before voting: Is a new ID created by any of these options? If it is, that could definitely play havoc with token actions, for instance.* Whichever option is chosen, I want to verify that the transmogrified item has the same ID. *&nbsp;IIRC, the original Character Vault wrote new IDs, which prompted an option for the Token Action Maker script to include a "by name" option.

Submitted the form, but I don't think any of the offered solutions will work. The problem is that the way in which users might use this is too varied. I think that when a conflict is detected, the user should be prompted for what to do. Something like: The Character Conan the Mildly Strong already exists in the game in the folder "Mildly Heroic NPCs". Would you like to: Keep Conan in Mildly Heroic NPCs and update the character's state to match what is being transmogrified Keep Conan in the transmogrified folder (move Conan from "Mildly Heroic NPCs") Have a copy of Conan in both places Apply to all duplicates in transmogrification: Yes/No The "keep in both places" should only be offered if there is a way to properly migrate one or both to new character/token IDs. Or if Roll20 can be updated to allow items to exist in multiple folders.