D&D 5E (2024) Character Sheet & Builder by Roll20

Saul J. said: Notice that my earlier message wasn't addressed: If you choose a background from an older book, like Strixhaven: A curriculum of Chaos, the builder doesn't handle the backgrounds correctly. For example, the Strixhaven backgrounds come with a feat (Strixhaven Initiate). But, the builder wants you to choose an Origin feat. According to the PHB, you only choose an Origin feat if the background doesn't already come with one. (See the box on p. 38 of the 2024 PHB). Any plans to fix this? This is something that is important to fix in order to be able to use the new sheet/builder with older non-2024 books. That is on our radar to update for the later backgrounds that offer feats, like these and Spelljammer. We were actually just talking about this today!

Tuo said: Is restoring fully free input on all roll input fields for custom roll expression and full access to sheet templates to be used in macros on that vaunted radar? Or were such core functionalities left on the wayside from the start? It actually is. The sheet does its rolls in a slightly different way than legacy sheets, so we need to make a few updates to make this possible (ex. right now, if you send out a roll that includes rerolls, it will do the rerolls but won't tell us which ones to "drop"), but it's a high priority right now. Frankly, a higher priority than backgrounds that offer feats, but those can be done in parallel anyway so one doesn't have to block the other in that way.

Saul J. said: Is there a timetable/eta for fixing these two problems? Both are really needed before the sheet can even begin to be considered "usable". As it stands now, the sheet and the builder are just an "alpha" concept that is not fully functional. Nicole B. said: It actually is. The sheet does its rolls in a slightly different way than legacy sheets, so we need to make a few updates to make this possible (ex. right now, if you send out a roll that includes rerolls, it will do the rerolls but won't tell us which ones to "drop"), but it's a high priority right now. Frankly, a higher priority than backgrounds that offer feats, but those can be done in parallel anyway so one doesn't have to block the other in that way. I don't have a timetable right now, sorry. This is a high priority but because it's not a one-off "just fix it" kind of issue and touches more than one piece of code, it's going to take some dev effort and multiple rounds of QA and all that that entails. I can say we're starting on the "fixing what Beacon tells us about advanced rolls" either today/tomorrow or early next week, but I can't guarantee the timeframe of finishing all the work.

MindlessCalm said: 1. Once at bard 10, you can't choose from the magical secret pool of spells until 11. You should be able to at 10 and after that you can a a lso for replacement spells. Will this be fixed? 2. Also, choosing great weapon master fighting style doesn't change anything. Is there intention to have it auto calculate the rolls at some point? 3. After choosing the fey touched feat, I cannot open the drop down to choose a fey touched spell. It just glitches out trying to load them.  Are these things known by the team ? 1. I haven't seen this before, but I was able to replicate it. I've passed it on to the team to make a bug ticket for this. 2. Yes, that's the intention. I'm going to take this back to the compendium team to get the data updated - we're also expanding the modifiers you can build under features every day, so it's possible we'll get to the modifier before the compendium team updates and you'll be able to add it manually. 3. This is a known issue, but I'm not sure where it sits on the resolution list.

Jim W. said: New bug reported as #288570 Blessed Warrior does not mention in compendium that it is Paladin 2nd level combat style.  Then when selected as combat style the list of Cantrips is not populated - just uses last spell selection list. So intially empty. Saul J. said: Bug - I believe this has been reported before: For Pact of the Tome warlocks, according to the PHB, the spells (both cantrips and the 1st level spells) chosen can be from any spell list and they do not all have to be from the same class spell list. However, the builder locks you into choosing Warlock cantrips and spells only for the Pact of the Tome spells. Thanks for the report! We have a lot of spell list updates coming very soon that should hopefully resolve the various bugs around selecting and replacing spells.

Dresdon said: So the primary lag I was experiencing was on the GM side with monsters. Opening a new monster from the compendium has a noticeable latency, but I get it, it's creating a new character sheet and populating it with the details from the monster database, I can accept a bit of a hit on first load. My main gripe was then using the sheets in game if I happened to close the monster rather that roll up the sheet into the title bar, then shift+Dbl Click on the token, to the point the sheet was loaded and actionable was taking over 5 seconds. Typically, Window appears empty black, 3-5 seconds content appears, occasionally then a longer delay for the aspects of the sheet to become 'live' under the cursor. (i.e. the cursor changes to click on a stat etc to be able to trigger the roll). Chrome Browser -  Version 131.0.6778.265 (Official Build) (64-bit) (or at least it is now, don't know if any updates were pushed in the last week). The issue with the damage rolls might be through lots of the content, I experienced it with Shillelagh on a druid character last night. In the character sheet itself I can see the druid's wisdom being factored into the damage, but if you click on the 'damage' link that is created in the chat window the wisdom bonus isn't added to the roll. The design of the new sheet around spells is really quite confusing. There's an instance of the spell in the Spells section which seems to if you dig deep enough link to an attack. It's unclear to me if this is the same attack object/instance that is on the Combat tab of the sheet or if that's a different instance again. Both of these look correct, so I don't know where the chat link is pulling from to get its data. Thanks for all the details - I'll look into this and see if we're doing something specific on NPCs that's making them slower than PCs when loading that way. We have a few tickets lined up next week to fix damage bonus issues and make sure that the chat button and sheet button are 100% in line with each other all the time. Noted about the spells - technically behind the scenes it is two pieces of data, because an attack can live with all its data under a spell, or under an item, or under a feature, etc., and a spell can have more than one attack and do two different things, like Ice Knife or Toll the Dead. I'm going to think on a solution that makes that less cumbersome without removing the ability to have multiple attacks attached to one spell. Eloquin said: I ran two games for the first time using the new sheets this week. My only real complaint is that we can not get them to auto roll damage. This seems like a low bar, but it was driving my group nuts, they want to go back to 2014 now....  is there a work around for this? If Gauss' solution doesn't work, I'd love to have more details on which attacks you were using, just in case there's some bug that needs to be resolved here. Jim W. said: I created 2nd level Aasimar Paladin, chosing the Blessed Warrior combat style. I see that now spells listed only include Cantrips and Prepared. Prepare or delete done via manage. A slight improvement in the sheet but still awkward and poorly thought out process. BUG [#288741] though prepared spells show 6/3 which are my 5 cantrips and one free prepare.  So should be 6/9 or more properly 1/4. While fixing this can we have prepared spells appear somewhere without having to manage save manage check quit? Fixing the cantrips showing up in the prepared total spells (as well as having that chip number update as you prepare/unprepare) is going to be pulled onto our board next week. Does the chip updating address your second piece of feedback? I'm not sure if you're suggesting "show the prepared toggle on the main spells page" or "show how many of your total you have prepared" or something else I'm not getting. RPGeezer said: Mid session last night I was randomly at full health again with some spell slots back on my Bard… Yeah we sent a kobold cleric into every game last night because everyone seemed to be having a hard time. For real though, was this a one-off occurrence? Was your sheet open by two people at once, or did someone just open it when that happened? Was it the only thing that changed? Were those the last things that had changed on your sheet, or did other more recent changes stick? How recent were the spell slot/HP changes? I don't mean to pepper you with questions, but when something like this happens we'd really like to dig down into what caused it so we can fix it, and just knowing it happened without enough details to reproduce it is like a cat seeing a bird through a glass window :(

Eloquin said: We figured out the issue =) it was in the manage sheet settings, sorry for wasting your time. It's always a happy day when there's nothing to fix, just things to learn :) you have nothing to apologize for! Master Azroth said: Found a bug (I don't recall seeing this anywhere) When auto roll damage is turned on any spell with a saving throw ( Acid Splash,  Burning Hands)  will not auto roll damage and will not have a button for damage. This happens when going through the combat page or the spell page. You have to click the damage button on the sheet to get it to roll damage  Thanks for the report! I don't think we had this one, so I'll be sure to add it to the list tomorrow morning. Isa said: I had been checking when nobody else was around and I thought I had been the only one online at the time, but went to check and the DM was afk but actually had roll20 still open. It's possible they had my sheet open, or others as they had been checking something on all of them not long before. I checked with them and though they couldn't remember if mine was they had been checking details about everyone else's, so it's possible. Will resume trying to use it and try and make sure we don't to see if it still happens again. Ty! I hope it never happens again!

Andrea L. said: The last update on spell prepared was welcomed but is not working as described in the log Our 13th level diviner wizard seems to have 24/17 spell prepared but the manage spell is counting cantrips (and an always prepared magic missile -from a wand). the circle of the moon druid is even worse as it is marked 34/22 at 12th level (he should have 16 prepared) and he has the cantrips and his 6 moon spells and also an enlarge/reduce coming from a potion (!!!) counted. ranger is 18/11 counting cantrips and lineage spell bard is 24/16 Note that in all cases the number is correct if you count everything  Also the manage is still purely alphabetical that makes spell selection really really cumbersome (I opened a ticket on this quite a while ago). A regression that happened in recent time (maybe with the last update) on prebuilt resources: the bard has lost all bardic inspiration resources checkboxes!! in the text it has become 1/0! it is now editable so we can manually correct but  on the psychic blades feature it has completely disappeared and even if you create it anew is not connected to the other counter similar issue on a 13th level ranger hunter mark resource is now 5/2 that strangely shows normally in the chackboxes tireless for the ranger is now 2/0 the big issue with these regression is that playable parts of the sheet are now back to being hard to play regards Andrea We have a couple tickets in flight this week to clean up the always prepared/cantrip issue, sorry about that. Also moving the prepared chip into the header to make it easier to see as you prepare/unprepare and having it dynamically update before you save, so look forward to those! The issue with resources is on our radar and I'm hoping to get it fixed ASAP, it's a top priority. Unfortunately, we had to temporarily pull out our logic for processing text formulas coming from the compendium, like in the ranger's case max(@{charisma_mod,1}), because it was causing sheet not saving/lag issues. Now that those are stabilized our top priority is putting it back in in a way that doesn't re-introduce that problem.

Noodle said: Couple of points after today's session: Produce Flame's Crit Damage button doesn't seem to do anything. We've checked the Crit Damage under the settings and it all seems to be set up correctly, but pressing the button when it shows up in chat leads to no output at all. We couldn't find a way to reduce hit dice outside of a Short Rest, which makes using Healing Kits with the Healer feat very difficult. If there's a way we couldn't find, I'd be very happy to learn it! Shillelagh still doesn't add your Spellcasting modifier to the melee attack, as noted before. The ability to remove the wall of text on weapon attacks would be great. We don't need a full description of a weapon every time it's used. E.g. Shortbow shows:    ``On Hit: Ammunition. You can use a weapon that has the Ammunition property to make a ranged attack only if you have ammunition to fire from it. The type of ammunition required is specified with the weapon's range. Each attack expends one piece of ammunition. Drawing the ammunition is part of the attack (you need a free hand to load a one-handed weapon). After a fight, you can spend 1 minute to recover half the ammunition (round down) you used in the fight; the rest is lost. Range. A Range weapon has a range in parentheses after the Ammunition or Thrown property. The range lists two numbers. The first is the weapon's normal range in feet, and the second is the weapon's long range. When attacking a target beyond normal range, you have Disadvantage on the attack roll. You can't attack a target beyond the long range. Two-Handed. A Two-Handed weapon requires two hands when you attack with it.`` 1. This ticket was just able to be pulled in as ready-for-work today - it was blocked by some other damage work being done. 2. Yeah, this functionality is still under construction. Sorry about that. 3. This ticket is in review now and should be fixed soon :) 4. Can you edit the attack description and remove that data, or is that spot empty? This was a data issue that was resolved, but when the data is transferred to your sheet it's copied/pasted, not referenced, so when the compendium data was fixed it didn't trickle down to all the sheets. If that doesn't work, removing the item and re-dragging it in should. I appreciate you continuing to try and posting what you find here!

Andrea L. said: Tried again to recreate a Monk at 12th level and some issues are still there (I opened a ticket on it in December). Kensei is not properly implemented: in the builder it does not ask for the weapons so in the sheet the appear as {input} I made a ticket for this, thanks! the deft strike has not the focus point counter (and if a create the resource it is not linked) sharpen the blade too should allow for the focus resource (BTW any way to remove by blocks of 3 points?) I assume you mean ki points? This is a consequence of the data from Xanathar's Guide still being older data - because the 2014 sheet didn't have the cool "multiple features share the same resource", that kind of data was never entered. In the near future we intend to add a modifier that lets you link an existing resource to work around this data limitation, but these books are all also being converted into newer data right now. also note that the resilient feat allowed to choose the saving throw but stayed orange as non completed I've raised this to the team, thanks. Looks like it's just a visual error. finally ion stone of mastery still does not work properly as proficiency is not augmented Yeah, the ioun stone is known but keeps getting pushed back in priority due to higher priority bugs and fixes since it's the only instance of editing proficiency bonus. I'll see what I can do to get this bumped up in priority, though.

Ignitone said: Forum won't let me respond to Saul's post up above when I quote it, but I got sorcerer points to display. That one was pure user error. I still can't get the breath weapon to display. I see the damage resistance, but not the breath weapon itself. Are you building 2024 Dragonborn, or 2014? Because the 2014 data is so simple, the 2024 sheet often can't automate things like breath weapons or unique classes from there. We're working to update the 2014 book to have all the old rules with the new data and when that's complete (very soon), any dragonborns made with 2014 rules will have their breath weapons properly captured with the relevant resource. In the meantime, you can add a new feature to that page, give it an action type of "action", and a source type of Species to basically recreate the same thing. Then, at the bottom of that page, there's a section called "Modifiers". You can add a new resource modifier and set how many you have and when it recovers. Saul J. said: For breath weapons like a dragonborn has: If you look at the tab marked "Features&Traits" and scroll down, you'll see a section marked "Species Traits". The breath weapon should be listed there, with a number of red checkboxes beneath it. You remove one checkmark each time you use the breath weapon to indicate it's been used.  For Sorcery points, they've done the same thing: they have checkmark boxes to indicate the sorcery points, but their implementation makes no sense to me. They put checkmarks under each ability (like Quickened Spell) plus under "Sorcery Points" but instead of it being one pool of points, they have separate pools for each which means a lot of manual upkeep. It's a bad implementation. I'm not able to replicate what you're saying about sorcery points - I just built a level 5 sorcerer with Quickened Spell and the sorcery points resource is linked to Font of Magic, Metamagic, and Quickened Spell. When I change one, the others change to match. It's possible that the data was updated after you made your sorcerer to account for that? Or you added the resources manually, which doesn't support linking yet? Alex B. said: Now that I'm actually able to access the 2024 rules, I've taken the opportunity to try to convert a character from the 2014 rules to the 2024 rules by rebuilding it from scratch, ground up.  Let me just say I can see all the interest and care put into the 2024 update from the activity on this board and the R20 team's responsiveness to it.  Full marks. However.  And holy cow....  It seems to me that the new sheet has been constructed by someone without more than a basic understanding of D&D rules. For example, the character in question has a non-standard Ring of Protection, which is +2 rather than +1.   To update this, it should be a matter of overwriting one number from a '1' to a '2'.  Instead, it appears that 13 numbers must be adjusted.  One for AC and 6 each for 'attuned' and 'unattuned' saving throw adjustments.  Which I was unsuccessful in executing and thus gave up in disbelief at this stupidity of this and a combination of exasperation and frustration. I'm not sure where 13 is coming from - there are two modifiers on a ring of protection. One is AC +1, and the other is Saving Throws +1. Since the ring requires attunement, you shouldn't need to adjust anything for the "not attuned" portion of it, unless you want bonuses to apply without being attuned. So, you should just need to update those 2 to be 2 instead of one and have it set. That being said, it looks like the modifier for updating saving throws hasn't been created yet, making updating the drag & drop for that item more complicated, presumably why you added individual abilities instead of updating the drag & drop version. The Ring is entered in data as a bonus to saving throw ROLLS, not a bonus to saving throws the STAT, and that part isn't fully built out yet. So I decided I'd try something simpler.  As a 10th level Diviner, my character has picked up a large number of spells over his adventuring career beyond the regular level-up choices and well beyond the memorization limits.  So to replicate this, I thought I should just be able to look these excess spells up in the compendium and drag and drop them onto my character sheet, right?  I use only 2024 spells so as not to cause potential version issues, and drag a couple of spells.  Looks like success:  I get a prompt, stating that something has been successfully dropped (odd phrase:  that suggests something was deleted rather than added, but ok...).  So I then go to my list of spells to find the new ones, to double check.  No sign of the new spells at all. Just to confirm what Andrea said - your spell was most likely being added (the word "drop" is because you dropped it onto your sheet and are using drag & drop functionality), but not automatically prepared for you. We've gone back and forth on automatically preparing spells for people - we don't want to cause this specific confusion of "it says it's on my sheet but I can't see it", but we also don't want to set prepared spellcasters up to prepare more spells than they have the ability to prepare. It's the same debate we had over automatically equipping/attuning items that require equipment and attunement, because it causes confusion to not have the attacks on your dagger or the bonuses from your ring show up the second you drop it onto your sheet, but it's also a little presumptuous to assume that you automatically want to attune to something just because you got it in the loot rotation. In that case, we landed on equipping and attuning, unless you're already attuned to too many things (and in that case we warn you so you know why you're not seeing the bonuses), so we can move spells in that direction too. I hope this makes it a little clearer that this isn't a case of lack of understanding of D&D on anyone's part or lack of care. I personally have very fond memories of playing 5e from printouts at my local game store back in early 2014 before it was officially available. I understand the frustration, and I can't guarantee the timeline on the individual pieces you've pointed out here, but we are both fixing bugs and improving functionality daily.

Andrea L. said: Roll template clarification: I've seen there has been an update on roll template and made me come to mind that I always wanted to ask some minor clarifications. here is a roll: after way too much time I realized the hexagon is a roll separator and not a special character gone wrong but why is that an hexagon? while this is a square ( and the return is really ugly...)? note that the 5d6 extra are the bard psychic blades but is not declared... and then there is this rhomboid??? for the bad alignment topic look also a this even uglier example. numbers are good so does not affect playability but some understanding if there is a deeper meaning to the various shapes and some better alignment in the template would be nice thanks Andrea They're MEANT to be outlines of the dice you're rolling. That being said, on internal review we came to the same conclusion a little while ago, that they're not clear or helpful to the template, so we're taking steps to redesign the rolls to be easier to read and laid out less weird.